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Joe - 27 Jul 2008 03:43 GMT I've been reading about the Uplink, Skyroute, etc and I would like, if possible, to tie this into my z900 panel and abandon the landline. I understand that I must choose a monitoring co that handles Uplink (or Skyroute, etc) and reprogram the z900 Am I correct so far? I'm not an installer, but I have experience programming the z900, as well as troubleshooting addressable and non-addressable alarm systems So, what module(s) would I need to accomplish this? The only place I could find the Uplink pdf install and user manuals is on a pay site, so I gave up I won't buy anything until I can see the manuals first. It's the only way I can be sure that it can be done, as the promo literature is completely useless Thanks Joe jposi at gmail dot com
Crash Gordon - 27 Jul 2008 04:19 GMT You wouldn't have to reprogram the Moose, just use the siren output voltage to trip the Uplink. Keep in mind you won't get any zones only "Burg" "Fire" no details. Then you'll need a secondary (separate) Aux Power supply (2.5 amp min. is what I use) and another backup battery for the Uplink. The Uplink will send Aux Power Fail and Low Battery for IT"S battery and AC.
It will test standard once a week IIRC, more than that you will pay extra.
Now, you just have to find someone to install it for you, since you as a user will not be able to set up the Uplink account...and you'll still need a CS to monitor it. Uplink is universal, so you should have no prob. finding a CS, but you will have to do that through a licensed alarmco.
You won't be able to program Uplink unless you have an Uplink dealer account btw.
And...keep your cell phone on and charged all the time :-)
hth.
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> I've been reading about the Uplink, Skyroute, etc and I would like, if > possible, to tie this into my z900 panel and abandon the landline. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Joe > jposi at gmail dot com Joe - 28 Jul 2008 12:54 GMT Thanks for the info This is a fire alarm that needs fire, clear, and trouble, plus a daily clear Would I need to add the FD1000 data module for that?
> You wouldn't have to reprogram the Moose, just use the siren output voltage > to trip the Uplink. Keep in mind you won't get any zones only "Burg" "Fire" [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > hth. Frank Olson - 28 Jul 2008 15:01 GMT > Thanks for the info > This is a fire alarm that needs fire, clear, and trouble, plus a daily > clear > Would I need to add the FD1000 data module for that? You're using a Z900 for a fire alarm????
Bob Worthy - 28 Jul 2008 15:05 GMT What is the Moose Z900 fire alarm system going to be monitoring?
> Thanks for the info > This is a fire alarm that needs fire, clear, and trouble, plus a daily clear [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > > hth. Crash Gordon - 28 Jul 2008 15:32 GMT A Z900 for a fire system?
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> Thanks for the info > This is a fire alarm that needs fire, clear, and trouble, plus a daily [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> hth. Jim - 28 Jul 2008 17:54 GMT On Jul 28, 9:32�am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote:
> A Z900 for a fire system? > > -- > **Crash Gordon** Yeah, you know, ..... not an installer BUT ........... ability to program, addressable, non addressable, wanting to "replace" landline with radio "backup" device ....... fire on a residential 25 year old panel. It's one of those Rocket jobs.
Bob Worthy - 28 Jul 2008 19:47 GMT On Jul 28, 9:32�am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote:
> A Z900 for a fire system? > > -- > **Crash Gordon** Yeah, you know, ..... not an installer BUT ........... ability to program, addressable, non addressable, wanting to "replace" landline with radio "backup" device ....... fire on a residential 25 year old panel. It's one of those Rocket jobs.
Had a lady call a couple of weeks ago that has a FBI 4600 panel in the home that she just moved into. She didn't want monitoring but wants the chime feature on. Told her there would be a service call charge. Reply was, "Never mind, my husband is very good with computers and programming. He'll be able to figure it out". OK, thank you for calling. Maybe they had the manuals and maybe it wasn't locked so maybe he can figure it out. Maybe.
Bob La Londe - 28 Jul 2008 20:52 GMT > On Jul 28, 9:32?am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > to figure it out". OK, thank you for calling. Maybe they had the manuals > and maybe it wasn't locked so maybe he can figure it out. Maybe. So, what do you do for a living? Oh, you're a banker? Good. I need a loan, but you need to come to my house to handle the paperwork at 3:00am, and I don't expect to pay any processing fees, closing costs or interest.
Bob La Londe - 28 Jul 2008 20:55 GMT >> On Jul 28, 9:32?am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > loan, but you need to come to my house to handle the paperwork at 3:00am, > and I don't expect to pay any processing fees, closing costs or interest. ... and I'm going to complain about how unfair you are if you give me a hard time if I miss a payment or five.
Bob Worthy - 28 Jul 2008 22:23 GMT "Bob La Londe" <nospam@nospam.no> wrote in message
> So, what do you do for a living? Oh, you're a banker? Good. I need a > loan, but you need to come to my house to handle the paperwork at 3:00am, > and I don't expect to pay any processing fees, closing costs or interest. And here I thought that all the cheap skates lived in south Florida. I wrote an article for my newsletter one time about how people push the limit when it comes to paying for service or was it that they just didn't understand how it works. The reason for writing the article was that it seemed the most common statement was "what am I paying you every month for?" It slowed the comments down for awhile but there is another whole generation of clients since I wrote that article. Interesting how it is the same comment though. "What am I paying you every month for?" Sounds like a broken record or there might be a newsletter on the other side. Was there an article ever written on "How to screw the vendor?"
Crash Gordon - 29 Jul 2008 01:03 GMT OH...be nice...and just "drop by when you're in the area"
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> On Jul 28, 9:32?am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > to figure it out". OK, thank you for calling. Maybe they had the manuals > and maybe it wasn't locked so maybe he can figure it out. Maybe. alarman - 29 Jul 2008 01:42 GMT > OH...be nice...and just "drop by when you're in the area. Yeah, I get that too. WTF does that mean? What if I'm not in yur "area" untl December, is that OK? Does that mean that you don't think that you will have to pay me?
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Crash Gordon - 30 Jul 2008 03:53 GMT It means you can just drop by for strudel and coffee and while you're here you can fix my alarm system, but I'm not gonna pay for no service.
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>> OH...be nice...and just "drop by when you're in the area. > > Yeah, I get that too. WTF does that mean? What if I'm not in yur "area" > untl December, is that OK? Does that mean that you don't think that you > will have to pay me? alarman - 31 Jul 2008 02:21 GMT > It means you can just drop by for strudel and coffee and while you're > here you can fix my alarm system, but I'm not gonna pay for no > service. No tickie, no laundry.
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Crash Gordon - 31 Jul 2008 16:07 GMT But, but, but... what about the free strudel?
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>> It means you can just drop by for strudel and coffee and while you're >> here you can fix my alarm system, but I'm not gonna pay for no >> service. > > No tickie, no laundry. Frank Olson - 31 Jul 2008 16:36 GMT > But, but, but... what about the free strudel? Any customer of mine that offers free strudel, gets free service. :-)
alarman - 31 Jul 2008 17:00 GMT > But, but, but... what about the free strudel? There is no such thing.
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Jim - 31 Jul 2008 18:07 GMT On Jul 31, 10:07�am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote:
> But, but, but... what about the free strudel? > > -- > **Crash Gordon** You are not aware that the "Free" strudle comes with an unwritten contract that says that you have to provide free service for a period of 5 years. If you don't, you are obligated to pay back the difference in free service for the balance of the 5 year agreement. It's one of those "lose ... lose ...." situations.
Crash Gordon - 31 Jul 2008 18:26 GMT Is it a strudel lease then...or do I own it? Do I always then have to go to the same strudel lady for 5 years or can I buy/eat studel elsewheres as well?
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> On Jul 31, 10:07?am, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > in free service for the balance of the 5 year agreement. It's one of > those "lose ... lose ...." situations. Jim - 01 Aug 2008 17:16 GMT On Jul 31, 12:26�pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote:
> Is it a strudel lease then...or do I own it? > Do I always then have to go to the same strudel lady for 5 years or can I > buy/eat studel elsewheres as well? > > -- > **Crash Gordon** Don't you get it? The strudle is "Free"! You can use as much or as little as you want to..... but only as much as is offered. ( which is only offered when something is wrong with the system and you're in the area) Your only obligation is to provide service at no charge. And if you don't ..... then your are obligated to provide service at no charge.
I mean ..... how much more clear can I make it?
(Jeeeeeze. Perfect example ..... People just never read the damn contract.)
Crash Gordon - 02 Aug 2008 02:56 GMT Well heck and golly gee, you're right!...it's right there in 6 pt. Kanji.
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> On Jul 31, 12:26?pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > (Jeeeeeze. Perfect example ..... People just never read the damn > contract.) Jim - 02 Aug 2008 21:18 GMT On Aug 1, 8:56�pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote:
> Well heck and golly gee, you're right!...it's right there in 6 pt. Kanji. > > -- > **Crash Gordon** Kanji? Is that what language that is? Oh well, I can't read Kanjian anyway.
And anyway, your eyes must be a lot better than mine.
Jim - 29 Jul 2008 05:31 GMT On Jul 28, 7:03�pm, "Crash Gordon" <webmas...@siriussystems.invalid> wrote:
> OH...be nice...and just "drop by when you're in the area" > > -- > **Crash Gordon** Oh.......... I just LOVE that one.
Somehow, I just never seem to be in that area! Just one of those querky coincidences.
G. Morgan - 28 Jul 2008 23:52 GMT >Yeah, you know, ..... not an installer BUT ........... Stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Just Looking - 03 Aug 2008 22:04 GMT If you're going to spend money on as cell type back up why use Uplink? I think I'd get a new Vista panel and use something like 7845i-GSM Total Connect from Honeywell or NX-8E and Alarm.com from GE.
> I've been reading about the Uplink, Skyroute, etc and I would like, if > possible, to tie this into my z900 panel and abandon the landline. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Joe > jposi at gmail dot com
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