M.I 5`P ersecution - Molestati on d uring Trav el
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mimemvf@bigfoot.com - 26 Dec 2007 09:29 GMT MI5 Persecution: Molestation. during Travel
MI5s persecution of me varies in intensity. Since 1990 it has been. steady for perhaps 80% of the. time; there was a notable quiet period in 1993, and another quiet period in. Jan-Feb 1995, as well as a hiatus in the first two months of. 1999. It puzzles me that they cease and restart, seemingly without any logic or. reason. But one aspect of MI5s activities against me which is relatively predictable is this weeks. articles topic, which is Molestation during Travel. Almost every. time I cross the Atlantic, go to the Continent or even try to enjoy. a holiday in this country, you can bet that MI5 will. be there doing their utmost to wreck it all.
This aspect of the. harassment is particularly relevant as I will be travelling to Europe. again in a months time, with naturally the Minidisc recorder in tow; so it. will be interesting to see if I can record the abuse which will almost certainly take place, either. on the Tube going to the airport, at the airport, on. the flight, in the terminal building - MI5 have previously. instituted instances of abuse at each of these locations, so well. see how much taxpayers money they waste this time, and whether it will prove possible to. capture their abuse on minidisc.
Read about the MI5 Persecution on the. Web
June 1992 in Polands mountain resort of. Zakopane
The persecution started in June 1990, and for. the first two years I stayed in the UK apart from. a couple of brief day trips to Calais. By the summer of 1992 Id had enough of being. cooped up in England with abusive fellow employees egged on. by an abusive secret police service, and decided to spend 10 days in southern Poland, on what was. intended to be a holiday at the mountain resort town. of Zakopane.
Unfortunately the psychopaths of the. Security Service were not willing to allow me to enjoy a holiday in peace. and quiet. The journey to Zakopane was by coach. from the meeting point at Londons Victoria coach station (National Express) followed by ferry followed by another coach. across Europe. As we left Victoria. a youth and his girlfriend started a loud tirade of abuse directed. at "this bloke", where the "bloke" was never named, but it was very clear that the "bloke" was. myself. The youth said "they" had "found somebody from. his school, and he was always really stressed at school, a real psycho". Again,. the label "they" was not elaborated on, but it was clear that "they". = the persecutors from MI5. The boy also said, "he was in a bed and. breakfast for only one night and they got him". By a not unexpected coincidence I had been in. a B&B in Oxford a week previously, which had. been booked from work; other things lead me to the conclusion that the company's offices were. bugged for most of the 2 1/2 years that I was there, so "they". would have known a room in the B&B had been booked. After a. few minutes of this I went back to where they were sitting and asked. where they were travelling. The boy named a village in France, and the girl's giggling suddenly ceased; presumably. it permeated to her brain cell what the purpose of the boy's. abuse was.
It is now very. clear to me that MI5 were trying to have me incarcerated, assaulted or killed on this trip across Europe. The degree. of verbal violence inescapably leads to. this conclusion. When we arrived at our destination, it became clear that many people,. both in our tour group and its guide, and among the ordinary. residents of the town, knew there was a movement under way to "get". me. MI5 employed many people and significant resources for an action which. they knew would only take a maximum of ten days. A commercial operation would never have felt able to. waste such resources on such an unproductive. and temporary action; only a state-sponsored, taxpayer-funded entity like the. Security Service would be able to. be so wasteful.
To give some examples of what happened in those. ten days; I was walking in some woods. outside the town, when a Polish woman, looking at me, said the English "sh.t" in. a strongly Polish-accented voice. For the first three years 1990-92 MI5 had been trying to force this word. on me. Another example; I was walking near my "hotel" when a mother said laughing. to her child, "a. wiesz ze to prawdziwy wariat" which means "you know hes a real madman". And the "TV reacting" happened there too; on. Polish TV, a bemused looking journalist said to another, "to jest sprawa. Anglikow", which means "its the concern. of the English", in other words, none of our business, despite what the English are trying to force. down our throats.
Just before we left for home, I went with some others from our. group to a nearby bar.. There a man shouted at me the same sexual obscenity which MI5 have constantly thrown at me these last three years. I think MI5. try to justify their various terms of. abuse by repeating them at me until I say them, either while conscious or while talking in my. sleep; and then they seize on. my saying those words to "prove" that the obscenities are "my fault", et cetera. This rather stupid reasoning of theirs can. actually be seen as indicative of the psychopathic. condition attributed to them in a previous article; blaming the victim. for the crime you inflict on him is how psychopaths. think.
Nor did the persecutors let up during the return trip. Returning. on the ferry over the channel, a rather. insalubrious-looking guy talked to his mates about "and you know. this bloke, hes really mad you know, hes really mad". On the National. Express return coach to London, a group of five or six young people started shouting at me.. I slumped in my seat and tried to avoid presenting a target, so they got ever more strident - "whats. the matter with you, cant you hear us?". One of the other people who had been on the trip to Poland asked them why they were. shouting at me, and they said, "hes been to Cambridge", to which the co-holidayer asked. them, "have you been to Cambridge?" presumably thinking they. were aggrieved fellow students,. but they answered "no". Even after I left the coach at Elephant and Castle abuse continued; in the tube station,. two kids started throwing abuse at me; one of them said to. the other, "and you know he works?" to which the other answered. "yes".
Immediate. Aftermath of November 1992
As you. will know from previous articles, my manager at OCG - ARIS/Oxford, Mr Mitchell, induced a mental breakdown in me in the months. leading up to Nov/92. The diagnosis was regarded. by the persecutors as a victory for them, because few if any people give credence to allegations. of harassment when they. are made by somebody suffering from schizophrenia. There is also a bias against the mentally. ill, an "institutionalised bigotry" in society comparable to. the institutionalised racism against blacks.
However, MI5 did not let up on persecuting me. following Nov/92. In December 1992 I flew by charter jet to Alicante in Spain for. two weeks recuperation. MI5 planted one of their people. on the flight, a youth who tried to start some noises that "hes a nutter". One of the. other passengers replied, "oh hes. a nutter is he? oh well!" and the youth shut up and said nothing for the rest. of the flight. I think it would be fair to say that the youth on the flight was. embarrassed by what he had been asked. to do in making the flight "uncomfortable" for me; he sounded defensive rather. than aggressive.
My first trip to. Canada in June 1993
Ive already covered this in a previous. article so Ill just give a brief summary here. On 10 June 1993 I flew. British Airways from Heathrow to Torontos. Pearson Airport. On de-planing from the aircraft, one of a group of four fellow passengers looked. at me and said, laughing, "if he tries to run away well find him".. It was quite obvious that these four men were the ones who had been harassing. me since 1990.
I. did nothing to apprehend them or bring this incident to the attention of the airport authorities, mostly because this was my very. first visit to Canada, and the last thing I wanted was to get into a dispute. before I had even finished disembarking.. In retrospect, I can see this was a terrible mistake; I. should have made every effort to detain and identify these people.
Subsequently I have made numerous attempts. to obtain the names of these people from British Airways passenger lists,. by talking to BA, through a lawyer. in Ontario, through a solicitor in England, through the UK police, and. also through private detectives in the UK. But all my efforts have come to. nothing. BA have told me they keep passenger lists for a period of seven years, so. they will still have the list for this 1993 flight. I did not see or hear anything during the rest of my. visit to Ontario in 1993 which would have lead me to. believe that I was being watched or followed.
Journey across. Canada in summer 1994
As I think Ive already said. in previous articles I emigrated to Canada in late May. 1994. For six weeks between late May 1994 and early July 1994 I travelled across Canada from coast. to coast, starting in Toronto, visiting various cities. and ending up in British Columbia. I saw this both as something of a holiday, and. the chance to get to know a little better my adopted. country.
As you can guess, MI5 followed me everywhere I. went during these six weeks. In Toronto, where. I started this trip in late May, I was spoken about by one youth to another with the words. "hes an idiot", to which the other replied, laughing. sympathetically, "good luck to him".
A couple of days later I went to Montreal and. stayed at the YMCA downtown. As you can guess (this is all so predictable,. isnt it?) MI5 followed. me there and bugged my room at the YMCA. Not only that, but they managed to. set-up an instance of "newscaster reaction" from a local television station; while I was watching a Vermont TV news programme. on the set in my room, the woman reporter said,. "well theyre just tired and they want to. go home", which sounds like a pretty unprofessional thing to say until you realise. she was trying to say of me that I was the one that was supposed to be tired, and they (ie MI5) wanted me to go home to. the UK.
On the bus journey across the North American continent, it. was quite clear that MI5 were following me every step on the way. For the first. part of the journey they actually put someone on the bus with me, a youth who. said at. me "that guys paranoid" and tried to incite other passengers to attack me. I stopped for a couple of days in Winnipeg. in central Canada, and on leaving the. town heard on the radio a female presenter ranting about "insanity! insanity!". It is very tiring travelling such. a long distance by bus; I took the journey in two steps,. each of about 36 hours; and it is especially tiring when you know MI5 are watching you and harassing. you every step of. the way.
When I finally got to Vancouver,. MI5 instituted the usual harassment, in very short order. I was. surprised how quickly they were able to induce hatred towards. me in elements of the general populace; the Security Service must have employed a number of agents and serious resources. in a very short period of time;. and for no real gain, because I havent been back to BC. for almost five years, so all their "work" appears to be for nothing. In downtown Vancouver a street. person said in front of me, "theyre all talking about him". For a few. days I was staying at Pauls Guest House (345 W.14th Ave); on the day I left, the owner Paul shouted. at no-one in particular, "hes going to Victoria" - which. was quite accurate, I was indeed going to the. provincial capital Victoria on Vancouver Island. But I had not told anyone at the guest house. where I was going; I had only mentioned to my parents back in England on the phone. that I was going away from Vancouver for a few days. Which. leads me to suppose that MI5s bugging of the phone in my parents house yielded. the "intelligence" that I intended to. visit Victoria, and they had passed the information on. to Paul.
When I got to Victoria it was again obvious. that the persecutors were "doing their. stuff" there as well. On the street I was identified as being English, although I had not said anything so my accent hadnt. given me away; and returning by ferry to the mainland, I. was abused by a Canadian woman who said, "hes a. nutter! you can run but you cant hide". During my years in Canada I have never. heard the word "nutter" on any other occasion; I do. not think it is part of Canadians vocabulary; so the Canadian woman on the ferry, who was obviously. talking about me, must have been supplied with this word by the English persecutors.. And once I got back to. Vancouver, staying at the Austin Hotel on Granville St, I listened to a conversation. in the apartment block directly opposite, and a man saying, "hes paranoid, so thats. as bad as it can be, so why are they doing this. to him?".
Holiday in. the States, August 1995
By 1995 I was living in Canada, and in August I. went down the eastern seaboard to Florida and as far. as Key West by car. As you can guess (this is all so boring. and predictable, isnt it?) MI5 followed me every step of the way. I can see in retrospect that this must have been quite easy. for them as they had my car bugged, both on the inside. to listen to anything that was said and what radio station I was listening to, as. well as what must have been a. tracker device installed to track it across long distances.
The first city I visited was Philadelphia. In the old. Congress Hall where the first US Congress. assembled, the woman guide started referring to my situation, saying that "all these people in Europe were watching. it", and they were "a little paranoid" at this 18th-century experiment. in democracy. Also I. had recently written a newsgroup post where Id described a (female) poster as "wet-nosed" (implying "canine"), and. a young girl in Philadelphia. remarked, "so he thinks were dogs?" There were two or three more incidents during this holiday. in the eastern States, including a radio station. down near Miami, showing "they" had tracked me all the way there, and were bugging. the inside of my car; but I didnt record the details and Ive forgotten some of it now.. Also down in Miami Beach a French. tourist in a lift expressed support for me with the words, "cest incroyable" ie. its incredible, meaning that. MI5s well-known actions against me were. beyond belief.
To go back a bit, in about May/June 1995 Id visited New. York, again by car,. and was insulted several times by people using the same words that had been used against me in England. In Central Park, and. elderly Englishman (not a. real gentleman - but then the Engish view of themselves as "gentlemen" etc is quite laughable) looked at. me and said "idiot". And while I was eating in a streetside restaurant a. New York youth started laughing and. said something like, "I cant believe it, hes actually here" - I. think that was because I had had an expressed wish to visit New York for some years before this,. although after this visit I wont be going there again for a. very long time.
Visit to Poland December. 1995/January 1996
In December 1995 I flew (BA. again, unfortunately - every time Ive flown BA one of these incidents has happened, presumably. MI5 is happier setting up harassment on British-domiciled carrier) from. Montreal to Berlin and travelled on to. Poland to visit family. MI5 naturally harassed me in Poland during my brief stay. They followed. me around and got Polish people to take part in the harassment.. In one case two Polish youths talked in front of. me saying in English (with marked Polish accents), "f.cked up men, f.ck. you". There were also other incidents which I dont remember too clearly since it. was some time ago.
The return flight connected through Heathrow, and in the transit. lounge MI5 again set-up harassment. against me. In Poland they were talking their abuse in English, and in London. they set Polish people after me to speak in Polish; they heard me on the phone to my father, and said. "a wiesz ze to Polski wariat", in. an almost sympathetic, inclusive fashion (translation. "you know hes a Polish nutter").. Once on the flight to Montreal I was again set upon. by two English youths, one of whom spoke and the other. listened. The aggressive "fat bastard" youth said, "if he wants to be a w.nker". (its my fault theyre harassing me, you see), self-justification. that "hes a nutter" (so we have to keep on abusing him, because hes ill), as well as. talking about the town in Poland where I had been staying. He also said, "he doesnt know who we are",. but as already remarked in a previous article, that was. at best a half-denial of my guess expressed in internet newsgroups that the people after me. were MI5 - if anything its a half-confirmation rather than. a half-denial.
These incidents are still going on. You can hear digitised audio. files of abuse. on a BA flight to Berlin in 1998 on the Web at address
On this. flight they were again attacking my mental health; "paranoid, hes paranoid" and "nutter". are discernable. The last "during travel" contact was at Ottawa. Airport on 21 July 1998, when "Alan Holdsworth" the psychopath MI5. agent, dressed as a vagrant, was pacing aggressively in the departure area. In three weeks. I will again be travelling to Europe; we will see what fresh acts. of molestation MI5 perpetrate during this trip.
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Robert L Bass - 26 Dec 2007 17:17 GMT > MI5s persecution of me varies in intensity.... Well, that's a relief. Imagine if it stayed at 100% all the time.
> there was a hiatus in the first two months.... Those can cause reflux which makes the persecution that much worse.
> Molestation during Travel.... Consider contacting Dateline NBC. They're always doing stories about molestation.
> MI5 have previously. instituted instances of abuse at each of these > locations... I hate it when that happens.
> On this. flight they were again attacking my mental health; > "paranoid, hes paranoid" and "nutter". are discernable.... Ridiculous! How anyone could think that is beyond comprehension.
> psychopath MI5. agent, dressed as a vagrant, was pacing > aggressively in the departure area....
Did they check his bags for shampoo? That's the preferred method of diverting abusive MI5 vagrants. While they're trying to explain away that bottle of Breck you can sneak past with your mini-disc recorder and hop on the plane unobserved. Once safely in your seat, simply remove the tin-foil hat and place it over the head of some sleeping passenger. If they sleep through the whole flight the vagrant agent will not discover the switch until after you've slipped away into the crowd at Bangladesh International.
Best of luck and a heart-fealt nano-nano, comrade.
 Signature Regards, Robert L Bass
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Doug - 26 Dec 2007 18:13 GMT The man appears to be suffering from a mental illness, to attempt to ridicule him for his illness is little different from deriving pleasure from seeing people suffer from other illnesses such as heart disease, cancer etc. One can only hope that in the life you brag about outside of usenet, (which apparently is so sad & meaningless that you spend so much of your time on usenet making an arse of yourself), that you behave with a little more decorum.
Doug
>> MI5s persecution of me varies in intensity.... > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Best of luck and a heart-fealt nano-nano, comrade.
> http://www.bassburgIaraIarms.com Roland Moore - 27 Dec 2007 06:35 GMT There is something going on for certain. What I have no idea. Telling people you're being followed usually tars you with the nut job brush that's for sure. However having been followed myself for a good number of years I can appreciate the emotional downside. The only thing that got me off of the nut job roster was the legal discovery process itself that spawned the surveillance in the first place. The other side had to produce all of the boring video prior to trial for it to be admissible under the rules of evidence. Whether all this stuff in these posts is real (doubtful in the extreme) or a distorted perception (more than likely) I can understand the feelings, if not the facts of what he is trying to relate. Being followed for a long period of time or just thinking you're being followed can creep you out. With the amount of posting this guy has done to date I think Bass having a little fun with him is the least of his worries. Besides I know for a fact Bass has been working undercover for the Mossad for years, not MI5. Well actually it's his Brazilian wife that gets the paycheck I hear. No one that thinks (as Bass seems to) that the BBC is fair can work for MI5. Sincerely, Scooter
> The man appears to be suffering from a mental illness, to attempt to > ridicule him for his illness is little different from deriving pleasure from [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > http://www.bassburgIaraIarms.com backspace - 27 Dec 2007 18:31 GMT > There is something going on for certain. What I have no idea. Telling people > you're being followed usually tars you with the nut job brush that's for [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > > > >http://www.bassburgIaraIarms.com I use Google groups to post and thus can't filter this MI5 stuff. Would somebody, please, please tell Google to just filter MI5. The person posting this is obviously a mental case and one can only imagine the turmoil he must be going through wether real or imaginary. I am certain that the CIA or whatever must have traced this mentally ill individual by now. Can't he be confined and helped or something because he is driving me up the wall. You should see what he did to the comp.robotics group, Usenet via Google is becoming unusable.
Robert L Bass - 27 Dec 2007 23:07 GMT > The person posting this is obviously a mental case... I doubt it. He's a Usenet troll. He does this to disrupt as many newsgroups as possible for the "fun" of getting people annoyed. Doug's feigned concern for decorum, etc., was pure BS.
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Doug - 29 Dec 2007 00:32 GMT Not at all, to mock someone who is mentally ill is no different from someone gloating over your medical condition.
You don't see it that way since you have no moral values whatsoever. You're quite happy to take pleasure in other peoples predicaments, yet take umbrage when others take pleasure in yours
Doug
> Doug's feigned concern for decorum, etc., was pure BS.
> ==============================> Just Looking - 29 Dec 2007 01:12 GMT >yet take umbrage when others take pleasure in yours Pretending what Bass posted and what others have posted about Bass is in any way similar is not telling the whole story. Others are not simply taking pleasure in Bass' misfortune, but actively wishing Bass harm in the most grisly and morbid way imaginable. No one here has any definite determination about this other person's mental health. Bass poked a little fun at him, and perhaps he wasn't using his better judgment. It is clear that Bass has a bit of the rascal in him no doubt. It is clear that Bass was having fun, and not trying to poke the bear. In any case Bass didn't wish this other person a speedy and gruesome trip to the netherworld just for posting what Bass didn't like. Bass didn't express any envy of this guy taking a trip, or challenge every aspect of this guys success or enjoyment of life. What Bass posted was not similar in spirit or order of magnitude to what gets posted about him.
> Not at all, to mock someone who is mentally ill is no different from someone > gloating over your medical condition. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > ==============================> G. Morgan - 29 Dec 2007 01:19 GMT > What Bass >posted was not similar in spirit or order of magnitude to what gets posted >about him. And I'm quite sure Bass does not need you to be his apologist.
Robert L Bass - 29 Dec 2007 05:25 GMT > And I'm quite sure Bass does not need you to be his apologist. Speak for yourself, druggy. I was just about to hire an apologist before this fine gentleman volunteered. :^)
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Roland Moore - 29 Dec 2007 06:31 GMT > And I'm quite sure Bass does not need you to be his apologist. The hyperbole here gets too much for me at times. I thought a little reality check would do everyone some good.
> > What Bass > >posted was not similar in spirit or order of magnitude to what gets posted > >about him. > > And I'm quite sure Bass does not need you to be his apologist. Doug - 29 Dec 2007 05:32 GMT Its really very simple, its either right or its wrong. Is it right to mock the guy because he suffers from a mental illness or because he really is being persecuted by MI5? Is it right to wish harm on RLB or take pleasure from his medical condition?
You can, as is your way, write a book about it if you want, but the answer in both cases is no
Doug
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> >yet take umbrage when others take pleasure in yours > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> > ==============================> Roland Moore - 29 Dec 2007 06:42 GMT You're correct about the right and wrong. However, I didn't see what Bass wrote as mean spirited or as deliberate mockery. I sincerely doubt if this guys reads any of the responses to what he crop dusts across so many NGs. Others are free to have a different perspective of course. Book tour to follow soon.
> Its really very simple, its either right or its wrong. > Is it right to mock the guy because he suffers from a mental illness or [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >> > >> > ==============================> Doug - 29 Dec 2007 17:38 GMT There are none so blind as those that will not see.
Doug
> I didn't see what Bass > wrote as mean spirited or as deliberate mockery. Mark Leuck - 31 Dec 2007 04:58 GMT > You can, as is your way, write a book about it if you want, but the answer > in both cases is no > > Doug "Write a book..." LOL!
Jim - 31 Dec 2007 00:58 GMT > >yet take umbrage when others take pleasure in yours > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > posted was not similar in spirit or order of magnitude to what gets posted > about him. Maybe you ought to compare what the M15 guy does in this manner. Bass does and has done everything that he is guilty of over the years ON PURPOSE. DELIBERATELY. INTENTIONALLY. With the underlying purpose of causing people harm and disrupting the particular Newsgroup that he happens to be wanting to distroy at the time. His goal is always to cause turmoil and chaos by aggravating people with is caustic and directed nasty retorts to anyone who happens to disagree with him. To do things that he KNOWS is going to cause turmoil. It's always been alright in his book to do what ever he damn well pleases to anyone he chooses but when anyone takes offense and opposes what he deliberately and intentionally configures to offend his detractor, he cries the innocent victim.
"A bit a a "Rascal"? a RASCAL???? He's the nastiest son of a bitch that I've ever come across and I'm certainly not the only one during his tenure in Usenet to think so. Take a poll here and find out how many think he's just a rascal. There have been hundreds of people along the way who've simply given up and no longer post, because of what this piece of sh.t has done. Take a good long look at the record of the people that this piece of garbage has tried to destroy. Take a look at the calculating and deliberate things he's done to newsgroups, with his letter bombs and massive post to Newsgroups to cause others not to be able to make use of it. Because he couldn't get his way after stealing someone elses work. Take a look at his personal life. Tell me, how many people do you know that are felons for pulling a gun on someone and are responsible for someones death? Yeah ..... he's a rascal alright.He's a f.cking demented misfit who doesn't deserve to live.
His horrendous record is firmly recorded in the archives and there's no one with anything more that sh.t for brains, that would try to defend him. Bass gets everything that he deserves here and apparently in his personal life also. The record speaks for it's self. He's a lying, canniving, nasty bastard and if there' is such a thing a justice, the fact that he's going to die a miserable f.cking death, confirms it's existance. Just because no one else has got the balls to say it, doesn't mean that they're all not going to breathe a sigh of relief when this son of a bitch dies. And THAT's exactly what SHOULD happen after the way he's treated people, apparently all his miserable life.
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