"Peter Huebner" <no.one@this.address> wrote in message
> No noise about that one here; not that I've heard. Seriously, I don't
> have much time for those 'animal rights' people though - it just gets
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> want. Particularly since many of them haven't a bloody clue about
> animals, just a bunch of vague romantic or anthropomorphic notions.
Yup. Couldn't agree more on any of those points.
> The latest one over here is now they want to forbid the use of sheepdogs
> or so some abatoir dude in Christchurch has trumpeted about. Apparently
> it makes the sheep unhappy....
Snort! A good sheepdog is worth its weight in gold because they know just
how to prevent the sheep from being unhappy.
> Lets put 5 'roos and 5 happy sheep in to every animal rights activist's
> living room, shall we? That'll give them something to think about.
:-)) I'll round up the roos that have had a go at people I know. Nothing
like a big buck roo rearing back on its tail with those sharp claws on the
rear legs ready to rake the guts.
> The local SPCA is whingeing and whining that they don't have money to
> sue people with. Seriously. Ah, don't get me started. They'd rather sue >
> people than pitch in and help an animal in distress any old day. I've
> stopped supporting that ship of fools.
Must be a bit different from our lot round here. I'm always delighted when
I hear of a prosecution because invariably the have caught someone who
should be hung, drawn and quartered and the pics of the animals on TV shows
that sort of neglect and mistreatment that are enough to make you want to
puke. I lose all sense of equanimity when I see such pics. I can tolerate
many things to some degree or other but not cruelty to animals.
Peter Huebner - 06 Jul 2009 10:08 GMT
In article <4a504a1e$0$2823$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-
01.iinet.net.au>, ask@itshall says...
> Must be a bit different from our lot round here. I'm always delighted when
> I hear of a prosecution because invariably the have caught someone who
> should be hung, drawn and quartered and the pics of the animals on TV shows
> that sort of neglect and mistreatment that are enough to make you want to
> puke. I lose all sense of equanimity when I see such pics. I can tolerate
> many things to some degree or other but not cruelty to animals.
Oh absolutely, I go along with that all the way. Only a total idiot of a
farmer would neglect their animals to that degree, mind , since they are
his livelyhood, but like every walk of life there are total morons in
farming. Not to mention townies who buy a 'lifestyle block' and fill it
with a few sheep, a donkey, some goats and ducks and then never look at
any of the animals from a husbandry point of view. Then there's old
geezers for whom the whole thing just gets too much and they don't know
when to quit. However, in many (not all) such cases a kind word & some
advice, a helping hand, or a trailer load of hay, would have better
results than a lawsuit. IMO. Granted, there are idiots who will take
neither help nor advice, and they should be stopped from having critters
in their care.
But our local spca was run by a kind of veg(etari)an zealot for years
now, and he was in the suing racket. Watch some cattle stand up to their
bellies in water due to a flash flood and then spend tens of thousands
suing the owner and his wife who were 2 hours drive away in hospital a
the bed of a dying relative at the time. That kind of thing rankles,
more so because it wasn't an isolated example. He'd also write articles
for the newspaper suggesting people should stop fishing cause it causes
hurt to the fish .... etc. (Not that I care for fishing, but, well, it
illustrates the kind of guy). He's been kicked up the ladder now, and no
longer in this area a.f.a.i.k. but I imagine this culture will persist.
I rather lost it with incredulity though, when they were placing big
articles in the paper how they had their shelters overflowing with
kittens and puppies at X-mas time, and so I instructed my nephew to go
pick up a kitten at the Auckland spca on his way up for the holidays.
SPCA gave him 3 forms to fill in, told him they couldn't give him any
'cause he was only 18 and not the householder and then told him they
wanted $85 for a kitten ---- In the end he left them standing, went to a
pet shop and got me a kitten for $35. Vaccinated, with a voucher for 1
vet visit, a second vaccination and a small bag of kitten-bikkies thrown
in. As I said: they're a ship of fools. I thought to help them out by
taking one of their kittens away, but they'll rather kill them (and then
beg for donations 'cause it kosts $ 100 to kill a kitten THEIR way) than
hand one over. Pshaw. Wouldn't give them a book of used matches after
all that.
If I had any serious animal welfare concerns, I'd got to the ministry
for Ag and Fish these days, they're professionals at least and there's
always the chance you'll find somebody half-way intelligent in the
office.
-P.
FarmI - 07 Jul 2009 04:58 GMT
"Peter Huebner" <no.one@this.address> wrote in message
>> that sort of neglect and mistreatment that are enough to make you want
>> to
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> always the chance you'll find somebody half-way intelligent in the
> office.
I can understand your irritation with them and I agree wholeheartedly about
the way they sell or put down animals, but on the other hand I can also see
their point (to a certain extent) that (some) people do tend to look after
things they pay for.
One of the worst cases round here was a townie who bought 40 acres and then
threw up a very expensive shed to spend weekends in, followed by yards (in
the wrong position and with no wings so we couldn't figure out how he'd ever
get any cattle into them where they were), followed by the pruchase or 40
glorious cows with calves at foot.
It was very distressing to watch what followed. I was out local Ag vet who
prosecuted him and his "farm" manager.
We knew from the moment we saw the greasy sod driving his BMW sedan on
shocking country roads that he was totally clueless.