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Homeowner Forum / Rural Living / July 2009"Pet Python Strangles Toddler in Her Bed"
"A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python Wednesday inside a central Florida home ..." http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=7980476&page=1 >"A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python Wednesday >inside a central Florida home ..." > >http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=7980476&page=1 That's impossible, just ask 'enigma'. >>"A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python Wednesday >>inside a central Florida home ..." >> >>http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=7980476&page=1 >> > That's impossible, just ask 'enigma'. Quote? My interpretation of the m.r discussion was that Lee was referring to the risk to humans from feral pythons. She didn't comment on whether/not a captive "pet" python might harm an unprotected, sleeping two-year old. According to the article: "The Humane Society of the United States said, including today's death, at least 12 people have been killed in the U.S. by pet pythons since 1980, including five children," Note, that's "pet pythons". >>>"A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python Wednesday >>>inside a central Florida home ..." [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >whether/not a captive "pet" python might harm an unprotected, sleeping >two-year old. The article referenced in the thread on pythons said, among other things, "Gibbons said a human is "just another prey item" to a python — especially a small human. Pythons are constrictor snakes and have been known to eat people in their native areas of Southeast Asia, he added." Lee said, "that whole article was total crap." >>>>"A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python Wednesday >>>>inside a central Florida home ..." [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Lee said, "that whole article was total crap." Obvious hyperbole. The lead sentence in the article says "One by one, seven slithering Burmese pythons were dumped into a snake pit surrounded by 400 feet of reinforced fence at the Savannah River Ecology Lab in South Carolina." According to your literal interpretation, she (also) "said" that didn't happen; no pythons were released. >>>> "A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python Wednesday >>>> inside a central Florida home ..." >>>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=7980476&page=1 >>> That's impossible, just ask 'enigma'. >> Quote? My interpretation of the m.r discussion was that Lee was referring >> to the risk to humans from feral pythons. She didn't comment on >> whether/not a captive "pet" python might harm an unprotected, sleeping >> two-year old. > The article referenced in the thread on pythons said, among other things, > "Gibbons said a human is "just another prey item" to a python — especially a > small human. Pythons are constrictor snakes and have been known to eat people > in their native areas of Southeast Asia, he added." > Lee said, "that whole article was total crap." That is not a "quote" as demanded by Ann - this *is*: enigma wrote: > Peter Huebner wrote: [...] >> Gibbons said a human is "just another prey item" to a python >> especially a small human. Pythons are constrictor snakes and have >> been known to eat people in their native areas of Southeast Asia, >> he added. > fear-mongering sensationalism. OMG, pythons will eat your baby! [...] Well, technically the python did not actually "eat" the baby so I guess that proves Lee must be, OMG, the expert she portrays... I guess Ann would defend feral pythons as better behaved than those pesky pet pythons, so back to square one - nothing to fear... >>>>> "A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python >>>>> Wednesday inside a central Florida home ..." [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > That is not a "quote" as demanded by Ann - this *is*: "Demanded"? <g> > enigma wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I guess Ann would defend feral pythons as better behaved than those pesky > pet pythons, so back to square one - nothing to fear... That's all it is ... (uninformed) guesses on your part. I didn't post to the python thread and I didn't comment when I posted the follow-up url. But it is puzzling why individuals who thing pythons can be dangerous to humans would be upset by an article about a python killing a human. >>>>>> "A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python >>>>>> Wednesday inside a central Florida home ..." [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> >> > fear-mongering sensationalism. OMG, pythons will eat your baby! Apparently that "pet" 12 footer thought he could eat that 2 year old, or he wouldn't have been constricting it. I know my "pet" python thought she could eat my hand. She was definitely trying to.. >> Well, technically the python did not actually "eat" the baby so I guess >> that proves Lee must be, OMG, the expert she portrays... >> >> I guess Ann would defend feral pythons as better behaved than those pesky >> pet pythons, so back to square one - nothing to fear... All pythons are predatory, and will attack and constrict whatever they perceive to be "prey" Whether it is your hand or a child doesn't matter one Iota to the snake. By the way, they are wild animals whether or not they are captive. They will revert in a second if they smell "food" I'm no expert, but I have kept several snakes including a reticulated python and a burmese.. and raised one up to 13 foot from a "baby" snake. They are all escape artists and if you keep one it is recommended that you have a cage complete with locks.. Even then, once they are big enough they may get out by breaking the glass front of their enclosure. That burm that killed the 2 year old was bagged and in its enclosure but still managed to get out and kill her. > But it is puzzling why individuals who thing pythons can be dangerous to > humans would be upset by an article about a python killing a human. Puzzling no..feeling sorry for the child, yes. If you have small children, don't keep giant snakes.. >>>>> "A 2-year-old girl was strangled by a 12-foot Burmese python Wednesday >>>>> inside a central Florida home ..." [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >That is not a "quote" as demanded by Ann. False. That was a direct quote. Go look it up. > enigma wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Well, technically the python did not actually "eat" the baby so > I guess that proves Lee must be, OMG, the expert she portrays... i am, actually :) and anyone who keeps pet pythons, particularly large ones (loose OR caged), in a house with small children/animals is an idiot. the article about placing pythons in the wild is sensationalism, pure & simple. i don't believe we need to know how far north they can live. we need to know how to get rid of them, as they are an invasive non-native animal... which is what i stated in my original post on that thread. > I guess Ann would defend feral pythons as better behaved than > those pesky pet pythons, so back to square one - nothing to > fear... i think reading comprenshion is an underutilized skill... lee > i am, actually :) > and anyone who keeps pet pythons, particularly large ones (loose OR [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > i think reading comprenshion is an underutilized skill... > lee I agree Lee. Both with the snake, kids, pet part and also about the reading comprehension. I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would want any snake as a pet. I hate snakes. Randy On Jul 2, 10:05 am, enigma <eni...@evil.net> wrote: > i am, actually :) > and anyone who keeps pet pythons, particularly large ones (loose OR [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > i think reading comprenshion is an underutilized skill... > lee I agree Lee. Both with the snake, kids, pet part and also about the reading comprehension. I harbor enormous skepticism about ones reading comprehension when they are incapable of proper sentence construction. > On Jul 2, 10:05 am, enigma <eni...@evil.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I harbor enormous skepticism about ones reading comprehension when they are > incapable of proper sentence construction Some folks just aren't that anal. Randy Randy <rjmacres@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c203a1bc-6dd3-4807-a4a3-575891bda67f@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups. com: > I agree Lee. Both with the snake, kids, pet part and also about > the reading comprehension. thanks, Randy. BTW, is alt.animals.llama still around? it seems to have fallen off my server, but if it's a dead group, i won't bother to ask for it to be added. > I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would want any snake > as a pet. I hate snakes. oh, i like them, but i far prefer the North American native species. my son wants a pet snake & my rules are no boas, pythons or topical species, preferably captive bred & has to be already eating frozen rodents. i'm hoping he'll find a nice corn, rat or milk snake. electricity costs too much here(.10 KWH) to mess with anything else that needs supplemental heat. the desert skink, the tortoises & the chameleon are bad enough. lee > Randy <rjmac...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:c203a1bc-6dd3-4807-a4a3-575891bda67f@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups. > com: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > chameleon are bad enough. > lee The llama group is still around but very little activity. I've pretty much given up on it. Want me to send you some good snakes from my area ? Got copperheads, some kind of rattler, water mocs, black snakes and some other meaningless snakes. The copperheads and black snakes are kind of a pain as they like chicken coops. Copperheads like to crawl up into the nesting boxes so you have to check real close while gathering eggs. The black snakes like chicks and eggs. Did have a hognose snake show up awhile back. It had it's head flatten out and was weaving it back and forth while faking strikes. I had no idea what it was so I shot it. Sure caught hell from the neighbors for that. Guess those are good snakes to have around. Everyones happy when you shoot the copperheads and also the black snakes when their around the chicken coops. Randy Randy <rjmacres@yahoo.com> wrote in news:8e3775ed-516b-470c-8238-5639361ff441@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups. com: > The llama group is still around but very little activity. I've > pretty much given > up on it. yeah, it was getting slow even before the great usenet purge... > Want me to send you some good snakes from my area ? > Got copperheads, some kind of rattler, water mocs, black snakes > and some > other meaningless snakes. i like the black snakes (not in my chicken coop, but around here the skunks eat black snakes & there's a skunk under the chicken coop... no, the skunks don't bother the chickens, other than eating an egg once in a while), but if you have another hognose send it my way! i'd really like that. we should be in the range for hognoses, but i haven't seen one in years. i'll pass on the copperheads & mocs, thanks. we have timber rattlers (which are small compared to the rattlers in your area) so i'm set on those ;) lee > Randy <rjmac...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:8e3775ed-516b-470c-8238-5639361ff441@y17g2000yqn.googlegroups. > com: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > those ;) > lee I've heard tell of pygmay rattlers in the area but haven't seen any. Will let you know if I come across any more hognose snakes. I sure don't feel any great need for them or pretty much any other snake. I'm not a snake fan in the least. Got nailed by a moc when I was a youngster and have never shaken the fear of them since. Once you got thru that fun experience you would rather not go thru it again. Randy > i like the black snakes (not in my chicken coop, but around here the > skunks eat black snakes & there's a skunk under the chicken coop... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > those ;) > lee Don't have many skunks on our place. Dogs cleared them out pretty good. I got sprayed 3 times in 2 weeks when we first moved to this farm. 1 of our dogs Callie (a catahula) hates snakes but she can sense them from a long ways off. She has a particular bark she uses when there is a snake within 40-50 yards. Yep, yards. She goes on alert then. You can tell if 1 has been around as she will bury her face to the ground and start following where it has been. Other day she got in a life and death fight with a shed snake skin. We have to keep her in the back yard as she doesn't realize or understand that she's not a pyreneese and she wants to help them guard against the wild dogs. As she's fearless she doesn't know when to quit or back off. Randy |
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