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rjmacres@yahoo.com - 02 Oct 2008 21:00 GMT
Who has outdoor wood furnaces and what kind ?
We're in the market for one.

Randy
Harry K - 03 Oct 2008 04:19 GMT
On Oct 2, 1:00 pm, rjmac...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Who has outdoor wood furnaces and what kind ?
> We're in the market for one.
>
> Randy

Be sure to check the zoning laws in your location.  More and more
places are banning OWBs.

Harry K
rjmacres@yahoo.com - 03 Oct 2008 11:42 GMT
> Be sure to check the zoning laws in your location.  More and more
> places are banning OWBs.
>
> Harry K

Thanks.  No zoning issues here.  No zoning laws at all.

Randy
Elmo - 03 Oct 2008 14:40 GMT
>> Be sure to check the zoning laws in your location.  More and more
>> places are banning OWBs.
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>
> Randy
Still would be a good idea to consider distance from nearest
neighbor, prevailing wind, etc.  We've had some folks in our
vicinity engaging in legal action which can be costly even
when you "win".  The owner of the outdoor woodburner is a
bit of a character -- uses it to provide domestic hot water
year 'round and burns more than wood in it.  Also allows it
to smolder.  And did I mention that it's in a little hollow
so the smoke just naturally drifts up to the neighbor who is
a little way up the hill?  They've been at each others throats
for at least 6 years that I know of -- I fully expect it to
end in the criminal courts.

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rjmacres@yahoo.com - 03 Oct 2008 21:32 GMT
Good idea.  Nearest neighbor is about 1/4 mile away.  Not worried
about him being bothered by the smoke as he's on his way to prison
for an extended stay.  And we're looking forward to that.
Next closest neighbor is about a mile away.

Randy

> Still would be a good idea to consider distance from nearest
> neighbor, prevailing wind, etc.  We've had some folks in our
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> the way. They are more important than the rest of us and
> cannot be bothered with life's inconveniences.
Larry Caldwell - 04 Oct 2008 23:47 GMT
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> Good idea.  Nearest neighbor is about 1/4 mile away.  Not worried
> about him being bothered by the smoke as he's on his way to prison
> for an extended stay.  And we're looking forward to that.
> Next closest neighbor is about a mile away.

From what I have read, it is hard to get a good burn with a cheap
outdoor water heater.  They use a water jacket around the firebox rather
than a heat exchanger in the stack, so the wood doesn't burn hot enough,
and blows a lot of fuel out the chimney.  Complaints about them have
been too much smoke and too much wood.  

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Elmo - 06 Oct 2008 13:00 GMT
> In article <d945d61d-e211-49e2-bf4b-
> 722aefd0373c@d45g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, rjmacres@yahoo.com
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> and blows a lot of fuel out the chimney.  Complaints about them have
> been too much smoke and too much wood.  

Yesterday afternoon I was walking down an alley in a smallish
village nearby and caught a whif of something that smelled like
when I accidentally got a model airplane too close to a flame.
Looked over and sure enough it was an outdoor wood burning furnace.

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Ann - 04 Oct 2008 14:36 GMT
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:42:13 -0700, rjmacres wrote:

>> Be sure to check the zoning laws in your location.  More and more
>> places are banning OWBs.
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>
> Randy

No general zoning laws here (yet) either.  But several municipalities have
ordinances restricting the outdoor furnaces.  There aren't that many
locally, but there is one I go by about every 10 days.  It's in a river
valley and it can produce a very impressive ground-hugging smog layer. So,
I think a lot depends on your location.
letterman@invalid.com - 03 Oct 2008 04:47 GMT
>Who has outdoor wood furnaces and what kind ?
>We're in the market for one.
>
>Randy

I cant tell you what kind to buy or not to buy, but I'll mention this.
I know a guy who bought a used one.  It did not leak water, no holes
in the burner, or anything like that.  Yet, that thing ate wood faster
than any other stove I have ever known.  He was heating a doublewide
trailer house.  He was going thru almost a full pickup truck of wood
every day.  

Maybe that stove was just extremely inefficient, or the heat exchanger
was poor, and I know his trailer was not the best insulated.  Yet,
that's just an outrageous amount of wood.  This makes me question
whether all those outdoor stoves are inefficient.  Is there too much
heat loss in the exchanger?  I should mention he had that furnace
right next to the house, and even built a shed over it.  Halfway thru
the winter he started to pipe the heat from the shed thru a large pipe
into a window on the house using a furnace blower.  His house was
warm, if not hot (80deg), but that was just too much wood.

Heck, when I heated a small house (about the size of a double wide
trailer), I could heat for 2 weeks on a pickup load, using a small
indoor wood-furnace with a blower.
 
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