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Kate - 27 Feb 2010 08:49 GMT
Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
doorbell to a wired doorbell .

There were three sets of wires inside my guest coat closet, in the entry
way.  One set goes to the back door, and one set goes to the front door.
The third set of wires is behind the fuse box in the garage.  There is
no transformer there so I will be buying that tomorrow along with a
doorbell unit. We tested all of the wires and they are in working order.

It is supposed to be very easy to install, and I will be so happy about
this.

I am still wondering why the people who built my home, eleven years ago,
did not wire in a doorbell.

Thanks to all, and I will post again when the job gets done Sunday.

Kate
Ed Pawlowski - 27 Feb 2010 12:34 GMT
"Kate" <katenospam@nwi.net> wrote
> I am still wondering why the people who built my home, eleven years ago,
> did not wire in a doorbell.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$
clare@snyder.on.ca - 27 Feb 2010 22:31 GMT
>"Kate" <katenospam@nwi.net> wrote
>> I am still wondering why the people who built my home, eleven years ago,
>> did not wire in a doorbell.
>
>$$$$$$$$$$$$$
no, cccccccccccc (pennies, not dollars) - the cheapskates.

At least they did the rough-in.
Art Todesco - 27 Feb 2010 13:08 GMT
> Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
> doorbell to a wired doorbell .
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Kate
It's funny, in my old neighborhood,
southwestern suburbs of Chicago, every
house had a wired doorbell.  Here in the
western Carolina mountains, almost
nobody has one.  My builder said that he
never has put a doorbell in any of the
houses he built.  Of course, I stupidly
had one put in with a button on the
front door.  I'm not sure anyone, other
than me, will every use that door, when
visiting.  I should have put it on the
back door.  But even that would be
stupid as we will have a screened porch
 with the back door inside the porch.
So, it would probably be better to have
the button on the door going into the
porch.  I'll probably do that when I
screen in the porch.
Nate Nagel - 27 Feb 2010 13:18 GMT
>> Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
>> doorbell to a wired doorbell .
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> better to have the button on the door going into the porch. I'll
> probably do that when I screen in the porch.

just extend the wires to the door to the porch and leave the button by
the back door.  that way if you lock the door to the porch, there's a
button there, and if you leave the porch unlocked and a visitor comes
through the porch to the back door there will be another button to push.

nate

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The Daring Dufas - 28 Feb 2010 03:46 GMT
>> Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
>> doorbell to a wired doorbell .
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> better to have the button on the door going into the porch.  I'll
> probably do that when I screen in the porch.

You need one O them thar cowbells a hangin near the door fer visiters
to whack on to get yore 'ttention.

TDD
Steve Barker - 27 Feb 2010 13:13 GMT
> Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
> doorbell to a wired doorbell .
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Kate

fyi, the transformer should come with the doorbell unit.
Ed Pawlowski - 27 Feb 2010 13:25 GMT
"Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> fyi, the transformer should come with the doorbell unit.

Where do you buy your doorbells? I've never seen one come with a
transformer.

No here that a transformer is required, not included
http://www.dimango.com/dc-hardwired-doorbells.htm

Accessories:
Transformer (Not Included, Uses 16v)
Buttons (As needed)
AZ Nomad - 27 Feb 2010 13:37 GMT
>"Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> fyi, the transformer should come with the doorbell unit.

>Where do you buy your doorbells? I've never seen one come with a
>transformer.

if there's a wire to the garage, the transfer goes in the garage.

110vac in garage -> transformer -> 24vac to closet -> doorbel -> front and rear
switches
AZ Nomad - 27 Feb 2010 14:52 GMT
>>"Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> fyi, the transformer should come with the doorbell unit.

>>Where do you buy your doorbells? I've never seen one come with a
>>transformer.

>if there's a wire to the garage, the transfer goes in the garage.
I meant "the transformer goes in the garage"

>110vac in garage -> transformer -> 24vac to closet -> doorbel -> front and rear
>switches
Peter - 27 Feb 2010 17:38 GMT
> "Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> fyi, the transformer should come with the doorbell unit.
>
> Where do you buy your doorbells? I've never seen one come with a
> transformer.

Try Home Depot, Lowe's, Ace Hardware, or even WalMart, Sears or Target's
electrical supply department.  Unless things have really changed in the past few
decades, they used to be available just about everywhere home electrical
supplies were sold.
Nate Nagel - 27 Feb 2010 17:41 GMT
>> "Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> past few decades, they used to be available just about everywhere home
> electrical supplies were sold.

right, they all likely sell doorbells and transformers, just not in the
same box.  You probably have to buy the pushbuttons seperately as well,
although obviously the wireless ones will come with the buttons as they
are also transmitters.

nate

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Ed Pawlowski - 27 Feb 2010 18:57 GMT
>> "Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> past few decades, they used to be available just about everywhere home
> electrical supplies were sold.

Sure, but the don't "come with" the doorbell unit. You have to buy the bell
and transformer separately.
clare@snyder.on.ca - 27 Feb 2010 22:34 GMT
>> "Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>decades, they used to be available just about everywhere home electrical
>supplies were sold.
A doorchime does not come with a transformer. A doorchime KIT comes
with transformer and 2 buttons.
A doorchime INSTALLATION kit is everything but the chime.
Steve Barker - 28 Feb 2010 03:00 GMT
>>> "Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> fyi, the transformer should come with the doorbell unit.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> with transformer and 2 buttons.
> A doorchime INSTALLATION kit is everything but the chime.

kit , schmit.   play on words.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xjl/R-100627078/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langI
d=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Steve Barker - 28 Feb 2010 02:54 GMT
> "Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Transformer (Not Included, Uses 16v)
> Buttons (As needed)

the last 6 i bought came with two buttons (lit) one tranformer and the
bell unit itself all in one box.

s
Steve Barker - 28 Feb 2010 03:00 GMT
> "Steve Barker" <ichasetrains@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Transformer (Not Included, Uses 16v)
> Buttons (As needed)

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xjl/R-100627078/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langI
d=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

Kate - 27 Feb 2010 19:22 GMT
>> Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
>> doorbell to a wired doorbell .
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> fyi, the transformer should come with the doorbell unit.
Thanks, as I am getting ready to head to Lowes now.
Phisherman - 27 Feb 2010 13:41 GMT
>Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
>doorbell to a wired doorbell .
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Kate

I disconnected my doorbell 6 years ago with no regrets.  Kids
(teenagers) around here like to play "Ding-Dong-Ditch" after 11 pm. If
I ever hook it up again it will take a picture of the visitor's face
rather than ring a bell.  Most who have battery-operated doorbells
eventually let them go dead.
Ed Pawlowski - 27 Feb 2010 15:25 GMT
> I disconnected my doorbell 6 years ago with no regrets.  Kids
> (teenagers) around here like to play "Ding-Dong-Ditch" after 11 pm. If
> I ever hook it up again it will take a picture of the visitor's face
> rather than ring a bell.  Most who have battery-operated doorbells
> eventually let them go dead.

We don't have that problem here, but if the doorbell rings, I know I
probably don't want to answer it.  Anyone that knows us, including the UPS
guy, etc. comes to the side door.  Bell ringers usually want to sell me
magazines, go to their church, or vote for them next Tuesday.   My wife
convinced me to fix the bell, but it was broke for over 20 years.  Never
missed it.
clare@snyder.on.ca - 27 Feb 2010 22:33 GMT
>> I disconnected my doorbell 6 years ago with no regrets.  Kids
>> (teenagers) around here like to play "Ding-Dong-Ditch" after 11 pm. If
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>convinced me to fix the bell, but it was broke for over 20 years.  Never
>missed it.
Obviously she did.
Steve Barker - 28 Feb 2010 03:02 GMT
>> Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
>> doorbell to a wired doorbell .
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> rather than ring a bell.  Most who have battery-operated doorbells
> eventually let them go dead.

at halloween, ours gets hooked up to a bonafide full blown set of
semi-tractor air horns positioned behind a bale of straw about 4 feet
from the visitor.  a simple capacitor and relay make it blow for 4
seconds with just a touch of the button.  Very effective,  hardly give
out ANY candy.  LOL!
The Daring Dufas - 28 Feb 2010 03:52 GMT
>> Today my friend, figured out how to change my current battery operated
>> doorbell to a wired doorbell .
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> rather than ring a bell.  Most who have battery-operated doorbells
> eventually let them go dead.

It's amazing what a simple video camera and monitor that a visitor
can see themselves in will do to deter mischief. Even a cheap fake
camera with a blinking light on it makes them think twice.

TDD
 
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