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BrianInNY - 29 Jul 2008 19:20 GMT
I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
"treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
thanks in advance.
Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 19:33 GMT
> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
> "treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
> appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
> thanks in advance.

I'm not an expert on the subject but:

I lived in a stucco house for about 10 years and never did a thing to it
other than patch some cracks with color matched stucco.

They can be resurfaced where they go over the surface with fresh stucco but
if you paint it it's like going back to square one. It has to be "chicken
wired" and refinished causing the job to be much more expensive.

Anyway, that's the way I understood it.

Here's a link that probably explains it much better.

http://www.bobvila.com/HowTo_Library/Refinishing_Stucco-Stucco_Walls-A2557.html
charlie - 29 Jul 2008 19:40 GMT
>> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
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>
> http://www.bobvila.com/HowTo_Library/Refinishing_Stucco-Stucco_Walls-A2557.html

a quote from your referenced site:

"For southern climates, where there are fewer problems with the freeze-thaw
cycle and the heating season is short, non-cement paints won't be as
problematic, unless there is an external moisture source such as bad
flashing or a leak in the roof."

the OP was talking about florida, pretty southern.

virtually all stucco houses in az are painted.

regards,
charlie
phx, az
Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 19:50 GMT
>>> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>>> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
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> charlie
> phx, az

I figured there maybe some contradictory stuff in there but I doubt all
stucco houses in AZ are painted. I lived in Abq. for over 20 years where it
was common knowledge not to paint over stucco unless you had no plans to
stay in the house. I'd never do that but I'm sure a lot of people do.

This is also from that link:

"Painting Problems with Stucco
Painting stucco with latex or acrylic paint changes the permeability
properties of the stucco system. "Everyone has found out through error that
painting stucco is not the way to go," says Dennis McCoy, owner of RAM
Builders of Lindon, Utah, a remedial contractor with a special focus on
repairing or replacing stucco. "We see the difference in the dry rot we find
which is 20 times worse behind painted stucco."

Which was what I was referring to. :-)
David Nebenzahl - 29 Jul 2008 20:59 GMT
On 7/29/2008 11:50 AM Billy Pilgrim spake thus:

>>>> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>>>> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> Which was what I was referring to. :-)

Disclaimer: IANASE (I am not a stucco expert). But this (not painting
stucco) is a new one on me. I have never heard that painting stucco is a
bad thing, and I think all the stucco I've ever seen (certainly 'round
'heah, S.F. Bay area) has been painted. People paint stucco here all the
time.

Haven't checked that site out yet, but I wonder if this is a
local/regional thing? Folklore? ("Yeah, it's gotta breather, ya know.")
Myth?

By the way, that quote contains one of the biggest misnomers of all
time: "dry rot". Ain't no such thing. (At least not as it's commonly
understood.) Rot happens when things get *wet*. The fact that it's dry
merely means the water has gone.

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It drags itself out of the dark abyss of pish, and crawls insanely up
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Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 21:00 GMT
> On 7/29/2008 11:50 AM Billy Pilgrim spake thus:
>
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> understood.) Rot happens when things get *wet*. The fact that it's dry
> merely means the water has gone.

You're obviously not from NM.

Common sense:

What are you going to do when it needs to be refinished? Which is usually
done about every 25 years.

I think this is y the OP wanted people with *experience* to respond. :-)
David Nebenzahl - 29 Jul 2008 21:10 GMT
On 7/29/2008 1:00 PM Billy Pilgrim spake thus:

>> Disclaimer: IANASE (I am not a stucco expert). But this (not painting
>> stucco) is a new one on me. I have never heard that painting stucco is a
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>
> You're obviously not from NM.

But the OP is in NY.

> Common sense:
>
> What are you going to do when it needs to be refinished? Which is usually
> done about every 25 years.

Why on earth would a stucco wall need to be "refinished"? Unless your
house was hit by a truck or something, all it's ever going to need is
repainting.

> I think this is y the OP wanted people with *experience* to respond. :-)

True, experience trumps a lot.

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"Wikipedia ... it reminds me ... of dogs barking idiotically through
endless nights. It is so bad that a sort of grandeur creeps into it.
It drags itself out of the dark abyss of pish, and crawls insanely up
the topmost pinnacle of posh. It is rumble and bumble. It is flap and
doodle. It is balder and dash."

- With apologies to H. L. Mencken

Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 21:29 GMT
> On 7/29/2008 1:00 PM Billy Pilgrim spake thus:
>
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>
> True, experience trumps a lot.

Stucco gets old and has to be refinished. It gets bleached out, cracks and
just in general old looking.  Especially where it is exposed to the sun.
That's why in NM we would hire a company that specializes. (just like siding
or roofing) that comes out and applies a layer over the old stucco and it
looks just like new. Much much better than paint. Paint looks good for a
little while. Maybe a couple of years. A refinish job will last 20 to 25
years.

This is where the problem is. If you paint it, before you can refinish it,
the paint has to be removed. Not sure how this is done but I think they
sandblast it off or the house has to be rewired and restuccoed. Very
expensive. Only the people that are ignorant, or are too broke to do it
right, paint over stucco. The paint always peels off eventually and really
looks bad.

There maybe a special kind of paint but I've never heard of it and like I
said I lived in NM (where 80% of the houses are stucco). A lot are painted
over stucco and they usually don't look that good.

If you were to refinish the stucco, with the paint on the old stucco, the
new stucco will not adhere and it will fall off.

BTW: The OP is buying a house in FL.

:-)
dadiOH - 29 Jul 2008 23:36 GMT
>> On 7/29/2008 1:00 PM Billy Pilgrim spake thus:
>>
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> specializes. (just like siding or roofing) that comes out and applies
> a layer over the old stucco and it looks just like new.

That's why we in Florida paint it.

Oh, a few - very few - diehards will have had "color in" stucco applied but
the stucco people don't much like to do it...too many variables.  If it HAS
been done AND if it need "freshening" AND if you don't want to paint then
the only option is to redo the stucco.

There are only three choices...
1. "Color in" stucco
2. Paint (or other surface covering)
3. Leave it a pretty cement grey
______________

> Paint looks good for a little while. Maybe a
> couple of years. A refinish job will last 20 to 25 years.

How long paint looks good depends on the quality of the paint.  Even the
worst paint would look good for more than  a couple of years.
_______________

> This is where the problem is. If you paint it, before you can
> refinish it, the paint has to be removed.

No just prepped (cleaned, usually pressure washed) and re-painted.
______________

> Not sure how this is done
> but I think they sandblast it off or the house has to be rewired and
> restuccoed. Very expensive. Only the people that are ignorant, or are
> too broke to do it right, paint over stucco. The paint always peels
> off eventually and really looks bad.

You are clueless.

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Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 23:57 GMT
>>> On 7/29/2008 1:00 PM Billy Pilgrim spake thus:
>>>
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>
> You are clueless.

oh...go paint ur stucco ;)

And please don't try to learn anything because I do believe you know
everything there is to know.

http://www.bobvila.com/HowTo_Library/Refinishing_Stucco-Stucco_Walls-A2557.html

what an a.s!
Oren - 30 Jul 2008 00:09 GMT
>> Not sure how this is done
>> but I think they sandblast it off or the house has to be rewired and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>You are clueless.

Dang! You are smart. :-)))

Waiting on Billy's experience with stucco.....
Billy Pilgrim - 30 Jul 2008 03:16 GMT
>>> Not sure how this is done
>>> but I think they sandblast it off or the house has to be rewired and
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>
> Dang! You are smart. :-)))

Congratulation!!

Both have both been nominated for one of the alt.usenet.kooks awards in the
"most useless advice in an alt. group" category.

Nominees:

#1        Oren  newsmaster@cox.net

"The same type I use. Sprayed on the stucco" (Referring to latex paint on
stucco.)

#2       dadiOH  xico@verizon.net

"No "treatment" is necessary.  How often it needs to be painted depends
primarily on the quality of the paint used...." (Same as above)

You'll be contacted with the results

Good Luck!
Harlan Messinger - 30 Jul 2008 01:27 GMT
>>> On 7/29/2008 1:00 PM Billy Pilgrim spake thus:
>>>
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>
> You are clueless.

I happen to be in the middle of having my stucco house repainted right
now (it was painted when the house was built), and I'll tell you that my
old paint lasted pretty well over the 13 years it's been on. The one
realization I've had about painting on stucco is that
*eventually*--lacking the facts, I'm guessing over the course of a
century of repainting--the paint build-up will fill in the nooks and
crannies and then the exposed surface of the house will no longer be stucco.
dpb - 30 Jul 2008 01:38 GMT
...
> I happen to be in the middle of having my stucco house repainted right
> now (it was painted when the house was built), and I'll tell you that my
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> crannies and then the exposed surface of the house will no longer be
> stucco.

What paint is/was used and where located, what type of stucco?

--
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 21:33 GMT
>> You're obviously not from NM.
>
>But the OP is in NY.
>
>> Common sense:

The house is in FL
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 20:56 GMT
>virtually all stucco houses in az are painted.
>
>regards,
>charlie
>phx, az

A local couple (owner/builder --NV) did not want to paint the stucco.
Instead they wanted dye/colorants (White). They were advised against
it ... something about consistent mixing.

The job turned out bad, so they painted the stucco.
Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 20:57 GMT
>>virtually all stucco houses in az are painted.
>>
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>
> The job turned out bad, so they painted the stucco.

Do you remember what type of paint did they use?
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 21:21 GMT
>>>virtually all stucco houses in az are painted.
>>>
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>
>Do you remember what type of paint did they use?

I never really asked, but knowing the local area I suggest it was
acrylic latex (elastomeric paint).

The same type I use. Sprayed on the stucco.
Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 21:33 GMT
>>>>virtually all stucco houses in az are painted.
>>>>
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>
> The same type I use. Sprayed on the stucco.

Read the article and read my response to David above.

I'm talking about "Stucco Houses" not just a side or a fence. You can paint
stucco, and it will look good for awhile, but there is a better way.
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 22:28 GMT
>>>>>virtually all stucco houses in az are painted.
>>>>>
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>I'm talking about "Stucco Houses" not just a side or a fence. You can paint
>stucco, and it will look good for awhile, but there is a better way.

If you mean sandblasting stucco, I read it.

Complete BS.
Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 22:47 GMT
>>>>>>virtually all stucco houses in az are painted.
>>>>>>
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>
> Complete BS.

I donno. If you are talking about this:

http://www.bobvila.com/HowTo_Library/Refinishing_Stucco-Stucco_Walls-A2557.html

Made perfect sense to me. Sorry you painted yours.

I noticed there is a Portland cement paint you could of used. I've never
seen it.

The cost of recoating a house with stucco (aprox 2700 sq ft) *was*, about 4
years ago, around $2k. After it's been painted I have no idea. As far as
sandblasting goes I'm not sure if that's how they take it off. Maybe they
use a chemical remover.
ransley - 29 Jul 2008 19:39 GMT
> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
> "treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
> appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
> thanks in advance.

If you buy stucco be sure its the real stuff, there is synthetic
stucco which has had alot of issues because it doesnt breath well and
any leak can cause mold behind it. Stucco unpainted may last 30-40
years before a recoat is needed, painted stucco has to be repainted
but done right may last 20 years, stucco can be washed, 5-7 years is
not necessary to just make it look good. Stucco is low maintenance
trader4@optonline.net - 29 Jul 2008 21:07 GMT
> > I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
> > the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> but done right may last 20 years, stucco can be washed, 5-7 years is
> not necessary to just make it look good. Stucco is low maintenance

Good and important advice.   A lot of new stucco is what's called
EIFS.   Do a google and you'll find lots of info.  Construction done
20 years ago was the worst, but as I understand it, there can be
problems with rot even in construction done much more recently.

I went to an open house recently where one of the features of the new
stucco house was a moisture monitoring system.   They actually have
moisture sensors built into the exterior walls.   I call this the the
"Your f..d" alarm, because when it indicates there is moisture, while
there may not be rot yet, it most likely isn't going to be cheap to
fix either.

There are inspectors that are expert in stucco houses, checking for
moisture, rot, etc.   Be sure to get one on any EIFS stucco house
you're planning on buying.
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 19:47 GMT
>I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
>"treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
>appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
>thanks in advance.

I lived in homes in Fl with stucco over block walls and now live in NV
with wood frame construction and stucco.

No problems.. fresh paint never hurts..:)
Heathcliff - 29 Jul 2008 19:50 GMT
> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
> "treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
> appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
> thanks in advance.

Different climate, but my stucco house in Chicago is unpainted and has
been maintenance-free for the 13 years we have owned the house.  I
believe the people who owned the house before us had some areas
patched, as I recall when we first moved in you could just barely tell
where the patches were.  Now I don't notice / can't tell.  I would not
be surprised if that were the only maintenance since the house was
built in 1914.
Charlie - 29 Jul 2008 21:18 GMT
I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years. Our development had a
painter under contract. Every five years he patced the cracks and then
painted the entire structure. Never had to have the surface re-stuccoed.

Charlie

> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
> "treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
> appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
> thanks in advance.
Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 21:34 GMT
>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years. Our development had a
>painter under contract. Every five years he patced the cracks and then
>painted the entire structure. Never had to have the surface re-stuccoed.
>
> Charlie

Sounds like the cheap way out.
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 22:41 GMT
>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years. Our development had a
>>painter under contract. Every five years he patced the cracks and then
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>
>Sounds like the cheap way out.

Billy,

Please enlighten the group with your stucco experience. I've lived in,
owned, numerous homes with stucco..even currently.

Tell us one time you've seen stucco torn from a house.
Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 22:50 GMT
>>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years. Our development had a
>>>painter under contract. Every five years he patced the cracks and then
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Tell us one time you've seen stucco torn from a house.

Please read:

http://www.bobvila.com/HowTo_Library/Refinishing_Stucco-Stucco_Walls-A2557.html

If you still have that stick up ur a.s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCTW5KseBxk
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 23:15 GMT
>>>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years. Our development had a
>>>>painter under contract. Every five years he patced the cracks and then
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>hhhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCTW5KseBxk

The OP asked about experience with stucco, not some stuff about
bobvilla or you tub.

Also, stop trying to be nasty. Your experience?!!
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 23:01 GMT
>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years.

What side?  <g>
dpb - 29 Jul 2008 23:01 GMT
>> I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years.
>
> What side?  <g>

T'other wun, o' corse... :)

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Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 23:03 GMT
>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years.
>
> What side?  <g>

u really are a dumb a.s. read stupid!
Oren - 29 Jul 2008 23:32 GMT
>>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years.
>>
>> What side?  <g>
>>
>u really are a dumb a.s. read stupid!

Hey Dummy, Tell me what side, but I'm more interested in your stucco
experience.

Yet to be explained.
Billy Pilgrim - 29 Jul 2008 23:46 GMT
>>>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years.
>>>
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>
> Yet to be explained.

i love how homemoaners always think they know whats right even when
confrounted with uncontrovertable evidence.

paint ur stucco. go ahead fools
Oren - 30 Jul 2008 00:00 GMT
>>>>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years.
>>>>
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>i love how homemoaners always think they know whats right even when
>confrounted with uncontrovertable evidence.

Declare your evidence, without bobvilla.

I love how you troll, try to envoke arguement and can't even back it
up. You know, stucco experience.

>paint ur stucco. go ahead fools

Get out of the thread, without your experince others will be better
off.
Billy Pilgrim - 30 Jul 2008 00:28 GMT
>>>>>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years.
>>>>>
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> Get out of the thread, without your experince others will be better
> off.

Uh..right off the bat I said I wasn't an expert..... little group moderator.
I referenced a well written article by a well respected home repair
authority. I posted the link probably 4 or 5 times. Can you read? What part
of the article do you think is BS? Why don't you take it up with them if you
are such an authority? I said I can't find a thing in the article I disagree
with. I didn't know about the dry rot which just strengthens my argument.
Also, I didn't know about the Portland cement paint. Gee...I read; and I
learned something. Lets all try it.

Now settle down little man.
Billy Pilgrim - 30 Jul 2008 01:11 GMT
>>>>>>I lived on the other side of Florida for 16 years.
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Get out of the thread, without your experince others will be better
> off.

that's what i thought.............little cock sucker.
Dottie - 31 Jul 2008 01:19 GMT
> > wrote:
>
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>
> u really are a dumb a.s. read stupid!

I live in the Tampa Bay area and my house was built in 1983.  We
bought the house in 1992 and painted it about 1998.  We have the
concrete block covered in stucco type.....anyway, it had been painted
at least once when we acquired the house.  When we painted we had to
put on two coats - we used plain old latex paint...can't remember the
brand but I bought it at Home Depot.  Stucco finished houses tend to
"suck up" the paint.  We used white paint (same color as before) and
we needed two coats.  Our neighbors have same type houses and at least
one hired painters to paint their house.  The painters used sprayers
(as opposed to rollers) and it looks nice.
dadiOH - 29 Jul 2008 23:49 GMT
> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
> "treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
> appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
> thanks in advance.

No "treatment" is necessary.  How often it needs to be painted depends
primarily on the quality of the paint used; weathering and sun fading are
other variables but they are pretty uniform throughout the state.

My house (central Florida) was painted when new in 1996 with a medium grade
paint.  The paint is still in good shape except for some fading.
Fortunately, the fading is uniform so NP.  I'll probably repaint in 3-5
years.

There is usually no problem with cracks in stucco over block unless there is
differential settling.  However, stucco over wood portions (such as gable
ends, etc.) of a block house will tend to get a few hairline cracks early on
(within a year or two).  Those are easily fixed by rubbing some caulk over
them and repainting the area.  Once fixed, new ones don't often occur IME.

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gfretwell@aol.com - 30 Jul 2008 04:49 GMT
>I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
>"treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
>appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
>thanks in advance.

I have been in a stucco house in Florida for 25 years and my wife
built about 200 stucco houses over the last decade.
DaDio and Oren were the only ones I saw in this thread talking about
stucco directly over block, the way most Florida houses are built.
There is nothing under the stucco to rot unless they did stucco the
gable ends. Some houses even have masonry gable ends.
These days gables are not that popular tho. They like hips better
because there isn't that big flat surface to catch the wind. Just
about the only place you see stucco over wood is where they framed up
a porch canopy or something. As for the painting, a good exterior
latex will get you 10 or 15 years. A lot of older houses may have
white  stucco with no paint on it at all that held up 40 years but the
white tends to get gray and streaky. That was the way this house was
when I bought it 25 years ago and it was 20 years old then. Pressure
cleaning got it better but my wife hates white so we painted it., Now
I am stuck painting,
SteveB - 30 Jul 2008 07:13 GMT
> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
> "treatment" or painting about every 5-7 years. Is this true? Would
> appreciate responses from group members with personal knowledge -
> thanks in advance.

Ahhhh, you've come to the right place, Grasshoppah.

I have lived in the desert SW for more than fifty years.  I'll try to be
brief.

Properly applied stucco will last for a very long time.  Now you can get all
kinds of spray treatments from ceramic to elastic paint that stretches 600%.

Stucco is just a cement product made from concrete, lime, sand, and maybe a
couple of other things.  It can be colored.  It's just a bitch to get a
consistent color unless you are making it in big batches, and can use the
exact amounts of ingredients each time.  Color comes in one pound bags, and
it's easy to get it off a shade or three.

However, your question is on longevity and maintenance.  Properly applied
stucco has a "weep screed" along the bottom that runs basically along the
bottom plate on the outside of the building.  It is drilled with holes on
the bottom so that when the stucco gets wet, the water migrates downhill
from the gravity and evaporates.  If it doesn't, then you have mold
problems, or the lime starts to leach out, and it appears white.  Amazingly,
some very high dollar homes in Las Vegas retirement communities were
constructed without weep screed.  It was in the laws, but someone got paid,
and they saved like thirty dollars a house.  Well, long story short, the
builders took it in the neck and replaced a lot of work.

Check for the weep screed issue.  If it is an older house, it may be
grandfathered in, and not required.  But, you still have the problem of the
water not having anywhere to go except inside the house.

Next big culprit is water itself.  Rain will run off, and dry up.  Continual
drowning from sprinklers will cause stucco to sluff off and the lime to
leach out BIG TIME.  You can see it on the exterior of some property owner's
walls where the water system on the inside is keeping the block wet 24/7,
and the stucco is sluffing off.

Next, is just settling, tree root heave, and age.  Lots of cracks in stucco.
Elastomeric paint helps, but just to a point.  After that, it's stucco
patch, and repaint.

I'd say five to seven years is not unheard of, but if you don't drench it a
lot with sprinkler water, have a weep screed that's properly installed,
don't have too many shady spots that never dry out, and just keep it up as
you go, that you can go longer than that.  It all depends on the quality and
mix used in initial construction.  And stucco is easy to paint, so you can
have a new color every ten years or so.  Paint's a little spendy, and it
takes a MONGO airless to pump it, it's so thick.  It will burn out a Graco
XR7 in fifteen minutes if you get the paint flowing at all.

Inspection is easy.  Look for cracks.  Settling.  Sluffing that looks like
white alkali cauliflower.  Wet spots that stay wet.  Take an ice pick and
jab it when no one's looking.  You can take a pocket mirror and check for
the weep screed.  Anyone who tells you it isn't important is trying to sell
you a bridge.

Hope this helps.  Good luck.

Steve
Oren - 30 Jul 2008 20:05 GMT
>> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
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>
>Steve

Good post Steve!

The inspector here  (Las Vegas) made me move my  "weep screed" on
three patio columns up and inch or so.  Not a problem, but his
observation.

btw, My stucco paint I mix well with a drill and paddle. Strained well
in cloth strainers. The XR9 throws it on the wall :))
Billy Pilgrim - 30 Jul 2008 20:17 GMT
>>> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>>> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
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> btw, My stucco paint I mix well with a drill and paddle. Strained well
> in cloth strainers. The XR9 throws it on the wall :))

ur a f.cking idiot
Oren - 30 Jul 2008 21:03 GMT
>>>> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>>>> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
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>
>ur a f.cking idiot
Oren - 30 Jul 2008 21:08 GMT
>>>>> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>>>>> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
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>>
>>ur a f.cking idiot

I can sell you a dead Mule!
Billy Pilgrim - 30 Jul 2008 21:30 GMT
>>>>>> I'm thinking about moving to Florida's gulf coast, where nearly all
>>>>>> the homes have a stucco exterior. I've heard that stucco requires
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> I can sell you a dead Mule!

keep ur mom
SteveB - 30 Jul 2008 21:10 GMT
> ur a f.cking idiot

Could you elaborate?  Right now, it's not looking too good for you.

Steve
Billy Pilgrim - 30 Jul 2008 21:13 GMT
>> ur a f.cking idiot
>
> Could you elaborate?  Right now, it's not looking too good for you.
>
> Steve

bawhaaaaaaaaa

another Usenet kook.

crawling out like cock sucking cock roaches.

Read...u might learn something.

pearls before swine.

lol ;-)
SteveB - 31 Jul 2008 02:48 GMT
>>> ur a f.cking idiot
>>
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>
> lol ;-)

You may go now.
Billy Pilgrim - 31 Jul 2008 02:50 GMT
>>>> ur a f.cking idiot
>>>
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>
> You may go now.

f.ck off faggot
Oren - 30 Jul 2008 21:28 GMT
>> ur a f.cking idiot
>
>Could you elaborate?  Right now, it's not looking too good for you.
>
>Steve

I can only suggest that if bobvilla turns a corner, the guy gets a
broken neck. Minimum; brown ring around the collar!

The guy really is a TROLL, pay attention.

Is it hot up there --100 + F here :(

Can't paint my stucco in this heat.
SteveB - 30 Jul 2008 21:10 GMT
> btw, My stucco paint I mix well with a drill and paddle. Strained well
> in cloth strainers. The XR9 throws it on the wall :))

Airless sprayers WILL handle the regular stucco and masonry paint.  But the
good elastomeric stuff that has the 600% expansion rating is about as thick
as gear oil, and requires a heavy airless designed for just that thing.

My XR7 really squirts out paint, too, making a long block wall doable in a
couple of hours.

Steve
Oren - 30 Jul 2008 21:33 GMT
>> btw, My stucco paint I mix well with a drill and paddle. Strained well
>> in cloth strainers. The XR9 throws it on the wall :))
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>
>Steve

I lost the link for the stucco wall on Decatur/Rancho, NLV.

Post it please.
Billy Pilgrim - 30 Jul 2008 21:41 GMT
>>> btw, My stucco paint I mix well with a drill and paddle. Strained well
>>> in cloth strainers. The XR9 throws it on the wall :))
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>
> Post it please.

u should be able to see it. it's up ur a.s with ur head.
Oren - 30 Jul 2008 22:50 GMT
>>>> btw, My stucco paint I mix well with a drill and paddle. Strained well
>>>> in cloth strainers. The XR9 throws it on the wall :))
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>
>u should be able to see it. it's up ur a.s with ur head.

In all likelihood, you might be a product of my sperm and loins. When
I get home I WILL slap your momma.!!!!!!
SteveB - 31 Jul 2008 02:48 GMT
>>> btw, My stucco paint I mix well with a drill and paddle. Strained well
>>> in cloth strainers. The XR9 throws it on the wall :))
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Post it please.

Damn.  Might still have the pics kicking around here.  Will look.  If I find
them, I'll post them on Flickr.  Can't remember the exact location now.

Steve
 
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