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Closing Up A Drywall Cutout ?

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Robert11 - 27 Jul 2008 13:46 GMT
Hello,

Have a hole cut in a drywall wall in bathroom that was cut to get at a
leaking pipe.
It's about 12" x 8" or so.

I guess the best thing would be to cut a new piece of drywall of approx. the
same dimensions to fill up most of the cutout before replastering.

But, there's no stud behind the cutout to nail it to.

So, what's the best way to close up the hole ?

Tape doesn't sound so good, as it's a pretty big opening, I think, to span
without some support.

If anyone has done any repair like this, or can offer any fairly specific
suggestions
(also, re brands of patching compound, and type to use) I would be most
appreciative.

Thanks,
Bob
SteveB - 27 Jul 2008 14:15 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> specific suggestions (also, re brands of patching compound, and type
> to use) I would be most appreciative.

* Cut a couple of pieces of thin wood about six inches wider than your
hole. I've used paint stirrers, but something about 1/2" thick would be
better. Screws might split the thin wood.
* Put the strips inside the wall, spanning the hole, so about 3" is
behind the wallboard on each side. Drive a screw or two through the
wallboard and into the strip on each side. Some adhesive wouldn't hurt.
It will look like this:

        +------------+
        |            |
  +-----+------------+-----+
  | * * |            | * * |
  +-----+------------+-----+
        |            |
        |            |
        |            |
        |            |
  +-----+------------+-----+
  | * * |            | * * |
  +-----+------------+-----+
        |            |
        +------------+

* Cut a wallboard patch to fit the hole.
* Screw the patch to the wood strips. Again, some adhesive wouldn't
hurt.
* Use wallboard mud to hide your repair. You get to express your
artsy-fartsy side here. I hope you're more artsy than fartsy. :-)

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aemeijers - 27 Jul 2008 14:27 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Thanks,
> Bob

Best method is to patch stud-to-stud, but that would require buying more
drywall, which is a pain to haul, and then what do you do with the rest
of the sheet? For a small hole, if you kept the plug you cut out, use
splint boards on the backside. Some 3/4x2 lathe is plenty. Cut a couple
sticks longer than the hole, and hold them against the backside of the
hole while you put in drywall screws through the drywall outside the
area of the hole, into the lathe. You can then screw the plug you cut
out to the splints. Feather the edges of the hole and the plug slightly
to avoid bumps in the patch.  Any of the DIY books or websites about
drywall work will have pictures that explains this better than words
can. Just Google on 'patching holes in drywall'.

But having said all that- if the hole is someplace where it won't show
(like a closet), I'd just install a painted masonite cover over it, for
the next time the plumbing needs to be worked on. If I ever get rich
enough to build a house, I'll lay it out so all the wet walls have
access plates on the back side. (I really hate patching drywall...)

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Nate Nagel - 27 Jul 2008 15:31 GMT
> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Thanks,
> Bob

How it's typically done by a pro is to get a small piece of steel stud
and drywall screw it across the opening.  then take your patch and screw
that to the stud, then tape and mud as usual.

nate

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gpsman - 28 Jul 2008 08:04 GMT
> How it's typically done by a pro is to get a small piece of steel stud
> and drywall screw it across the opening.  then take your patch and screw
> that to the stud, then tape and mud as usual.

The real trick is in crafting the patching piece.

You don't try to cut a patch to fit the hole, you cut out an oversize
patch (beveling the edges to be smaller on the inside), trace around
that, then cut out the hole to be patched to fit that patch piece.

Works every time, if you do it right.
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- gpsman
David Nebenzahl - 28 Jul 2008 08:49 GMT
On 7/28/2008 12:04 AM gpsman spake thus:

>> How it's typically done by a pro is to get a small piece of steel stud
>> and drywall screw it across the opening.  then take your patch and screw
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>
> Works every time, if you do it right.

Or you could cut a "dutchman", where you start with an oversize piece
and leave a couple inches of paper only around the whole piece that
cover the edges. Kind of like a self-taping patch.

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Smitty Two - 27 Jul 2008 15:48 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Thanks,
> Bob

Cut it back to expose a stud at either end.
Phisherman - 27 Jul 2008 17:42 GMT
>Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>Thanks,
>Bob

There are a few methods to fix this.  Make a brace with a 16"x4" piece
of ply set inside the wall across the hole and fasten with drywall
screws on each end.  Insert the patch and fasten to the brace.  Tape,
mud, sand, mud, sand, prime, and paint.
HeyBub - 28 Jul 2008 01:08 GMT
> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> (also, re brands of patching compound, and type to use) I would be
> most appreciative.

If there's a chance the pipe will need future access, such as the hole
providing access to the bathtub's fixtures, you might consider hiding the
hole rather than patching it.
Edwin Pawlowski - 28 Jul 2008 02:56 GMT
>> I guess the best thing would be to cut a new piece of drywall of
>> approx. the same dimensions to fill up most of the cutout before
>> replastering.
>> But, there's no stud behind the cutout to nail it to.
>>
>> So, what's the best way to close up the hole ?

Open the hole to a stud and nail it.  You can do small holes with tape but
when you get larger piece I'd rather see a screw to wood in at least one
place.
Wayne Boatwright - 28 Jul 2008 05:34 GMT
On Sun 27 Jul 2008 06:56:26p, Edwin Pawlowski told us...

>>> I guess the best thing would be to cut a new piece of drywall of
>>> approx. the same dimensions to fill up most of the cutout before
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> when you get larger piece I'd rather see a screw to wood in at least one
> place.

You could also mount 1x2's to the backside of the existing drywall that
span just beyond the opening, screwed through the existing drywall, then
screw the patch to the installed 1x2'.

The  method could depend on how large the replacement needs to be.  

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terry - 28 Jul 2008 14:04 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> Thanks,
> Bob

Bridge across the inside of the cut, within the wall cutout with some
wood strips etc. screw or glue them to each side of the hole. If you
can get the bridging along at least two of the edges would be good;
but not essential. And/or jam some two by foyr etc, same thickness a
wall into the gap to screw fill-in piece of new wall board to.
Buy or scrounge a piece of drywall (we always keep a few bits on hand
anyway) and cut to fit cut out. Screws better than nails (or even some
glue to hold the bridging against the adjacent drywall or even the
adjacent studs!
Cos then you are not pounding nails into the wall where there are no
supporting studs.
Finish drywall by normal taping and plastering; repaint wall etc.
Tekkie® - 31 Jul 2008 02:36 GMT
Robert11 posted for all of us...

> Hello,
>
> Have a hole cut in a drywall wall in bathroom that was cut to get at a
> leaking pipe.
> It's about 12" x 8" or so.

Really did a lot of research on this huh?  Geez

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