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hillacc@yahoo.com - 07 May 2006 16:34 GMT
I am thinking about buying a lawn edger.  I have a corner lot, so quite
a bit of sidewalk to edge, plus several flower beds.

So far, I have seen an electric edger, a manual rolling one, and the
standard "half-moon" type (sort of like a flat hoe).

Does anyone have any recommendations about which kind works best?
Obviously, the electric one holds out the promise of involving the
least labor, but do they work well?  Are they easy to handle?  Would I
be further ahead just to hire someone to edge the lawn once a year
(leaving aside the "less labor" issue)?

Thanks in advance,
Jo Ann
Rick Brandt - 07 May 2006 16:51 GMT
>I am thinking about buying a lawn edger.  I have a corner lot, so quite
> a bit of sidewalk to edge, plus several flower beds.
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> Thanks in advance,
> Jo Ann

I also have a corner lot and if you have anything near the linear feet to edge
that I do then you don't want ANY of those.  You want a gas powered edger.

The electric is tolerable (barely) after you have done the edging two or three
times into the growing season (essentially you are just cleaning the existing
trench), but establishing that trench the first few times in the spring is a
terrible chore for both you and the edger.

My electric B & D died after 3 or 4 seasons and I replaced it with a 3 1/2 hp
gas powered.  What a difference!  All you do is walk slowly and guide the thing.
With electric I was going back and forth several times in the same space to get
a good edge.
m Ransley - 07 May 2006 18:01 GMT
Edgers kind of died when people realised their weed wacker was the
easiest edger to use.
hillacc@yahoo.com - 07 May 2006 19:10 GMT
No, I don't want to trim along the edge, i.e., weed whack.  I want to
do as Rick suggested and actually create an edge between the sidewalk
and the yard.  The turf has actually started to over-grow the sidewalk
quite a bit and it needs to be cut back and an edge established.

Jo Ann
Rich256 - 08 May 2006 02:30 GMT
> No, I don't want to trim along the edge, i.e., weed whack.  I want to
> do as Rick suggested and actually create an edge between the sidewalk
> and the yard.  The turf has actually started to over-grow the sidewalk
> quite a bit and it needs to be cut back and an edge established.
>
> Jo Ann

Much depends on the soil.   I bought a gas engine type many years ago.
Four cycle engine.  A few years ago I switched to 5W30 Mobil 1 synthetic
oil and it ran better than ever (and have switched in all my air cooled
engines).  Still runs like new.

I do remember when I bought it I picked up a heavy duty electric to see
what it looked like and a fellow standing behind me said "don't waste
your money on that".
Goedjn - 08 May 2006 16:56 GMT
>No, I don't want to trim along the edge, i.e., weed whack.  I want to
>do as Rick suggested and actually create an edge between the sidewalk
>and the yard.  The turf has actually started to over-grow the sidewalk
>quite a bit and it needs to be cut back and an edge established.
>
>Jo Ann

In my country, we call that a "curb".
Derek Lawler - 07 May 2006 19:43 GMT
I was walking my dog last week and was able to watch a lawn maintenance guy
use a Ryobi weed wacker with a blade attachment do a beautiful job of edging
his lawn. He had a corner house with a lot of edging to do and it took him
about ten minutes with the attachment he used.
Derek in Florida
HeatMan - 08 May 2006 21:28 GMT
> I was walking my dog last week and was able to watch a lawn maintenance guy
> use a Ryobi weed wacker with a blade attachment do a beautiful job of edging
> his lawn. He had a corner house with a lot of edging to do and it took him
> about ten minutes with the attachment he used.

And that has been done (probably) weekly for how many years?

Beating down grass that has been growing over the curb for a while takes
more than that.
Art - 07 May 2006 19:47 GMT
If you used a real edger once you would never use a weedwacker again.

> Edgers kind of died when people realised their weed wacker was the
> easiest edger to use.
m Ransley - 07 May 2006 20:34 GMT
Art, ive used real edge trimmers, thats why I like a weed wacker, alot
easier to do.
Bob G. - 08 May 2006 15:04 GMT
>Art, ive used real edge trimmers, thats why I like a weed wacker, alot
>easier to do.

your comments were not directed to me...BUT I find using a edger is
much much easier to use ...and less work...

Bob G
hillacc@yahoo.com - 08 May 2006 15:43 GMT
Someone had a question about the half-moon type I referred to.  It's a
manual model.  Envision a hoe blade that is flattened out (on the same
plane as the handle, rather than bent at a right angle to it) and
shaped like a half moon.  You insert the curved (cutting) edge between
sidewalk and lawn and step on it.

At any rate, I think maybe a gas model is winning the debate.  I took
mm's advice and borrowed a neighbor's electric one and WHAT A CHORE
that was!  Part of the problem was that it's apparently been a l-o-n-g
time since this was done (I haven't lived here long), and in places the
lawn had encroached on the sidewalk as much as 4-6 inches.  It had to
be cut with a shovel and torn away like sod.  It looks a lot better
now, but a little uneven in spots where the shovel was resorted to, so
now I have to wait for it to regrow a little and then even it out.  I'm
sure it won't be as bad in the future if I keep up with it (like so
many lawn chores...), but I also think a gas model would have made it a
much shorter, easier job.

Jo Ann
Bob G. - 08 May 2006 15:02 GMT
>If you used a real edger once you would never use a weedwacker again.

Thats MY OPINION also...  Not that I do not also own a
weedwacker...since it too has its place...BUT for sidewalks draveways
etc....The edger is King...  Gas vs Electric is the only debate

Bob G.
Grumman-581 - 07 May 2006 18:04 GMT
> I am thinking about buying a lawn edger.  I have a corner lot, so quite
> a bit of sidewalk to edge, plus several flower beds.

Of all the edgers that I've seen over the years, the one that I
probably like the best is one my father had many years ago when I was
a kid... This was back before the days of the string trimmers... He
had built an edger that instead of having a blade like you see these
days, had a few links of double loop chain spinning like a blade...
The blade types these days will nick the concrete if you don't keep it
aligned perfectly with the edge of your driveway... With the chain
type, if you got off alignment a bit, it would just spark a bit to let
you know that you needed to adjust your track a bit... These days, I
just use my string trimmer to do my driveways, but it's more work and
doesn't look as neat as that old trimmer he built...
Art - 07 May 2006 19:47 GMT
I used to use a cheap Pullan gas edger.  It looked like a gas weedeater but
instead of  the fishline running parallel to the ground it used a blade
running perpendicular to the ground.  Buy extra blades.  It was around $125
bucks at the time.  An incredible bargain.  I used it many years but finally
decided to use a lawn maintenence service.

>I am thinking about buying a lawn edger.  I have a corner lot, so quite
> a bit of sidewalk to edge, plus several flower beds.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks in advance,
> Jo Ann
MC - 07 May 2006 21:05 GMT
> I used to use a cheap Pullan gas edger.  It looked like a gas weedeater but
> instead of  the fishline running parallel to the ground it used a blade
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>>Thanks in advance,
>>Jo Ann

I found the best tip from one of those home improvement shows.

Edge the lawn, weahter against a flower bed or walkway, back and
tappered, about 4 inches deep an tapper back toward lawn away from edge
of bed or walkway. I ususally leave an additional space of a few inches.
I then add a little mulch to the trench but all the way, leave a space
that is lower the the level of the walk or bed.

The grass will try and creep over, extending its roots into the trench,
those roots will usually die since not enough soils to cover and support
them from getting exposed to air.

Re-edge only once a year with a spade and re-mulch.

Seems to work for me.
Phisherman - 07 May 2006 21:30 GMT
I have a gas-powered Weedeater (paid $55) with a curved shaft.  This
weed wacker is on its 14th year of service.   Position the string
vertically and steadily walk backwards.  When this technique is
mastered you'll get a professional-looking trim around the lawn.  BTW,
I learned this technique from an illegal alien.
Buck Turgidson - 07 May 2006 21:50 GMT
I use a manual kind that I bought at Sears 20 years ago.  I sharpen the
teeth once a year with a file.

It doesn't contribute to global warming ("climate change" for you
Republicans), and it gives me exercise.
James - 07 May 2006 22:31 GMT
To specifically answer the lady's questions, yes, CLEARLY  it will be
cheaper to hire someone to edge once a year, if that is all  you want.
mm - 08 May 2006 00:00 GMT
>I am thinking about buying a lawn edger.  I have a corner lot, so quite
>a bit of sidewalk to edge, plus several flower beds.
>
>So far, I have seen an electric edger, a manual rolling one, and the

My house came with a manual one, and it works but is slow.  Some
places the lawn rolls over the sidewalk and the grass is tough, so it
is really slow.  Other places the lawn never encroaches on the walk so
it's good.

>standard "half-moon" type (sort of like a flat hoe).

???

I got an electric one at a rummage sale for 3 or 4 dollars, but if I
didn't have that, I'd use a string trimmer, a weedwacker.  Unless it's
a really small one, they work fine and there is no chance of
scratching or chipping off pieces of the sidewalk.

>Does anyone have any recommendations about which kind works best?
>Obviously, the electric one holds out the promise of involving the
>least labor, but do they work well?  Are they easy to handle?  Would I

If you don't point well, or there is enough grass encroachment that
you're not sure where the edge is (a common situation) you'll hit the
cement with a pretty powerful motor (dulling the blade I suppose, but
I don't know how sharp the blade is to begin with or how much it
depends on sharpness), or you'll cut slices in your lawn.  Pointing
well seems like it would be easy, but I guess the fact that I'm trying
to cut real close to the cement and the blade is at the end of a 3 or
4 foot pole makes it harder.  Can you borrow a neighbor's to try it
out?

>be further ahead just to hire someone to edge the lawn once a year
>(leaving aside the "less labor" issue)?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jo Ann
No - 08 May 2006 15:47 GMT
> I am thinking about buying a lawn edger.  I have a corner lot, so quite
> a bit of sidewalk to edge, plus several flower beds.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks in advance,
> Jo Ann

No one has suggested this yet. I used to have a corner lot too. One side
had a slope leading down to the sidewalk. That side seemed to encroach a
lot over winter.

I would rent a big gas powered edger once a year, or every other year to
 get the edge established. I would then maintain it with the string
trimmer. Worked well for me. I also follow MC's tip about edging beds to
minimize encroachment.
hillacc@yahoo.com - 08 May 2006 16:06 GMT
Hmmm...now that seems very reasonable, and leaves me with one less new
tool to store and maintain, a definite plus!  Thanks for the
suggestion.

Jo Ann
George - 08 May 2006 17:36 GMT
> Hmmm...now that seems very reasonable, and leaves me with one less new
> tool to store and maintain, a definite plus!  Thanks for the
> suggestion.
>
> Jo Ann

Or you could buy a trimmer that has interchangable heads. I have one and
you just loosen a thumbnut and twist to remove the trimmer head and just
insert edger, twist  and tighten the nut. An edger works a lot better
than a string trimmer for edging.
trader4@optonline.net - 08 May 2006 20:35 GMT
> > Hmmm...now that seems very reasonable, and leaves me with one less new
> > tool to store and maintain, a definite plus!  Thanks for the
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> insert edger, twist  and tighten the nut. An edger works a lot better
> than a string trimmer for edging.

That's exactly what I have and I agree it's a very good compromise.   I
have about 150 feet of curb.  I've use real 4 cycle gasoline edgers and
they really are the best, with enough power to easily cut even if it's
way over grown.   I was considering buying one of those, but the big
problem is that it's another fairly large widget that you have to store
and only use occasionally.

When my string trimmer died, I settled on a Troy Bilt 2 cycle unit
(TB25ET) that comes with two heads.  One is a string trimmer, the other
an edger blade and you swithc by loosening a thumb screw, takes less
than a minute.    Used it 2 years now and it's excellent.   If you
haven't edged in a long time, it will be more difficult the first time,
and you need to take it slow.  Aftet that, these units are very good at
maintaining.  I do mine every couple months.
Colbyt - 12 May 2006 02:06 GMT
>I am thinking about buying a lawn edger.  I have a corner lot, so quite
> a bit of sidewalk to edge, plus several flower beds.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Thanks in advance,
> Jo Ann

Unless you like pain and frustration, just say NO to all of the above.

Having read a follow up post or two by you let me say that the first time
you edge neglected walks nothing will beat a well sharpened spade. If you
cut the dirt back about an 1 from the edge of the walk and at least 2" deep
you will have a nice clean line that can then be maintained with  a gas
powered edger if you do it a few times per year.

If you edge every other grass mowing the string trimmer will do the same
job but you use a lot string.

I have the Ryobi weed wacker with a blade attachment and it does a great
job.  I also have the little tiller attachment.  So basically I have 3 tools
with one engine.  They are actually sold under a different brand name now.
Just look for the quick change tagline.

Colbyt
 
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