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Bedbugs...Drione not working

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02befree - 16 Jun 2008 02:04 GMT
Here's the story.  We live in a nice area in our own home. 19 yr old
son complained one night he felt like something crawling on him, next
day found typical bedbug gatherings underneath the mattress edging
(didn't know what the heck at first, never seen anything like it
before, thought bedbugs were just in nursery rhymes, but after some
useful searches on web, got positive ID on them).  Took mattress
outside and left it for two weeks, bedbugs were still there, didn't
want to mess with it so we trashed it,  Son had been sleeping around
at bachelor friends house that lived like pigs, so we assumed he got
the BB there.  He moved out a while later and we emptied the room and
cleaned it -  no chemicals/pesticides used, we just assumed we got rid
of them with the mattress.  Then put out two little girls in the room
on two twin beds and they complained of bites two months later, never
saw a sign of BB.  Our master bedroom is adjacent and wife found one
crawling in broad daylight near our doorway.  I started getting itchy
bites and finally got a flashlight and found two mature bugs and 4
small brown ones one night.  Bed is an old wooden waterbed frame with
Cal King mattress.  We ordered a kit from doyourownpestcontrol.com,
got the Drione Dust and CB D FORCE AEROSOL.   Thought about ditching
the bed frame because of all the cracks and crevices, but we're
swamped with owning own business and lots of activities and large
family, so...late at night we dismantled the frame, found maybe 5 or
so BB, sprayed them and then dusted all the boards, joints and cracks,
vacuumed  the mattress and dusted.  I slept on the floor near the
dismantled bed in a sleeping bag for two nights and got bit both
nights by small tiny brown BB's, and maybe one that was mature.  We
put it back together.(oh yeah, laundered all the bedding) and cleaned
the room.  Well, that night we got bit and found two very very small
brown ones.  I put them in a ziploc, shot some dust in it and sealed
it.  The little BB just tooled around in the dust like it was flour.
I was so discouraged.  The next day we check a spare bed we have in a
small partitioned area of the Master that's behind a partial wall and
found a bunch on that bed, and then found a bunch more on the bed that
we'd treated...Gads.  I really don't want to pay the money to have a
pro do it, we're sending two kids to college.  It seems we flushed a
bunch out by brushing all the boards for eggs with stiff paint
brushes, vacuuming and dusting with Drione.  The label talks like it
kills on contact.  The CB D FORCE AEROSOL is very effective on
contact.  We'll do whatever we have to and we've read lots about
dealing with these things so we're being careful with bedding, little
kids sleeping in bed with us, etc.  Help
Periproct - 21 Jun 2008 14:51 GMT
> Here's the story.  We live in a nice area in our own home. 19 yr old
> son complained one night he felt like something crawling on him, next
> day found typical bedbug gatherings underneath the mattress edging
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>  Then put out two little girls in the room
> on two twin beds and they complained of bites two months later

Hi

Can I ask how often you get bitten?

One of my colleagues thought he saw a bed bug at work and now I'm paranoid.
Visual inspection at home and I can't find any but one night I got about
seven bites on my upper arm plus a couple elsewhere. I put the bites down to
what we call gnats over this side of the pond.
The bites were over a week ago and none since. I have read that BBs can live
for a long time on one meal so I'm wondering if they've had their fill and
won't be back for a period of time.

Regards
jaunty.akhenaten@gmail.com - 22 Jun 2008 05:45 GMT
> > Here's the story.  We live in a nice area in our own home. 19 yr old
> > son complained one night he felt like something crawling on him, next
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> Regards

The bb can live up to 18 months, unfed. Life span is shorter if
they're eating, of course.

Apparently their strategy of waiting 50 years for a new, unprepared
generation, seems to be paying off in spades for these parasites. By
simply filling one room with pesticide, we succeed in herding them
into another; and another, and another.

So far, by staying up all night and spotting them during an approach,
my own standoff with these close relatives of the Assassin Bug nets an
average of a dozen nightly. I still get bit, of course, but generally
catch the biters as well by not sleeping more than half an hour at a
time...until well past dawn...

Catching them with two folded index cards, though slightly difficult
due to their evasiveness and their tendancy to stick *hard* to
anything, has proven most effective in depleting their vast numbers.

Still, the fact remains: a main hive can exist anywhere; inside walls,
behind books (where they leave droppings) and, of course, along that
funny little rim that most mattresses seem stuck with.

I'm thinking, the only thing to do is move to an uninfected place,
making sure to decontaminate all possessions along the way. Otherwise,
some might wait up to 18 months before swarming in again.
Tony D - 22 Jun 2008 21:42 GMT
>> > Here's the story.  We live in a nice area in our own home. 19 yr old
>> > son complained one night he felt like something crawling on him, next
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> making sure to decontaminate all possessions along the way. Otherwise,
> some might wait up to 18 months before swarming in again.

1.  Do you have carpet in affected room?  CHECK where rug contacts wall.
They like dark places.

Search out source:
To monitor room, put bed legs on dishes with soapy water to try and catch
some. Put double-sided tape on the bed legs, we are trying to determine if
they
are outside of the bed in the immediate area.  If so, vasiline the bed legs
until you resolve the situation.
Treatment:
 Bedbugs are hell, they can survive for years, sometimes without feeding.
With that in mind;
1.  Do a knockdown first with a contact insecticide, I would try a synthetic
pyrethoid.
2.  Dust, spray (like you have) in all cracks, crevices and in the hollow
interior of the bed frame. Do the whole house.
3.   Steam VACUMN to get eggs if carpeted...
4.  Go to local P/C store and find an IGR specifically for bedbugs, this is
a supplement to control procedures above.
You will have to repeat this process a few times. Get rid of any second-hand
furniture or take apart and do the same treatment as the bed.  I would get a
new boxspring.   Check all seams on the mattress itself.

Good luck!

Tony
Gloria@nowhere.cam - 11 Jul 2008 06:35 GMT
Bedbugs were pretty much eliminated during the days of DDT. The
powerful DDT powder is indestructable, and continues to kill kill kill
for months and years. It was very good, too good.

Since the ban on DDT. the bugs  are making a comeback. Through
evolution the new bugs have developed resistance to the new weaker
pesticides.   There have been cases where the infested house is
abandoned, demolished, or resold to an unsupectioning buyer.

To be sure you don't bring them or the eggs to your new house, all the
belongings have to be heated to 160 deg f for a period of time.  Other
items are simply desposed of , and replaced with new. No untreated
item is moved to your new location.

The bedbugs arive into the homes in fold of a suitcase, in the seam of
a shoe, in the cap of a shampoo bottle, in article of clothing, or
even on your body. Once established, the resistant ones are nearly
impossible to be rid of.  Only are controlled so that they are not a
nuisance.

Bedbugs have been a companion of humans for thousands of years. The
odd bite will not harm. Pick them out of the seams, seal all wall
gaps. Keep the clothes dryer on high heat. If they are inside the
walls , who cares.

If I could figure out a way of heating an entire house(including the
concrete footings and concrete floors, and the surrounding dirt for a
3 fit perimter,  to say 150 deg f for a few hours, without melting or
warping the plastic components, , then for sure the bugs would be all
dead. All the bugs.

>>> > Here's the story.  We live in a nice area in our own home. 19 yr old
>>> > son complained one night he felt like something crawling on him, next
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>Tony
 
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