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Homeowner Forum / Lawn and Garden / July 2008Learned something new today
which may be of interest to some of you. I have got my cabbages growing well and covered with a net to keep pests off, (mainly Pigeons) This morning I noticed a lot of white butterflies had got in, not wanting said cabbages to be covered in caterpillars I filled my spay bottle with soapy water (Fairy liquid) and sprayed over the cabbages, hoping this would make them less attractive for them and also directing the spray at the butterflies whenever possible. A short time later I saw that the b/flies had got out and flown off but the ones that I hit with the spray where laying on the ground dead. Fairy liquid is fast becoming my best friend. Wally > which may be of interest to some of you. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Wally What dilution did you use Wally? Judith >> A short time later I saw that the b/flies had got out and >> flown off but the ones that I hit with the spray where [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Judith Not all that strong Judith, I didn't measure it but my spray bottle is two litre and I added about an egg cup full of soap. Wally > >> A short time later I saw that the b/flies had got out and > >> flown off but the ones that I hit with the spray where [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wally Thanks Wally I was just seeking approval that my concentration was o.k. We use about the same strength. Judith > which may be of interest to some of you. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Wally Why u not use butterfly netting? Ed >> A short time later I saw that the b/flies had got out and >> flown off but the ones that I hit with the spray where [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Ed The mesh of the net is small enough to keep them out but the little b****8 will always find a way in, usually at a join where I have missed a bit. Wally >> Why u not use butterfly netting? >but the little b****8 will always find a way in, usually >at a join where I have missed a bit. > >Wally I have two different makes of 'butterfly netting', and I've watched the little b***'s (probably the 'small whites') squeeze their way even through the smaller diameter mesh ', certainly not through any gaps - they seem to be able to fold their wings and squash through. Maybe a case for trading standards/trade descriptions ?? Just a thought ;>) Ros >>> Why u not use butterfly netting? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ros Then you need a smaller mesh size. Probably 9mm or less. Ed >> I have two different makes of 'butterfly netting', and I've watched the >> little b***'s (probably the 'small whites') squeeze their way even through [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Ed I've searched in vain in every garden centre near me for a smaller mesh and found nothing smaller than my smallest, which seems to be about 12mm. I do take issue with the fact that they describe it as butterfly netting though. Ros >>> I have two different makes of 'butterfly netting', and I've watched >>> the little b***'s (probably the 'small whites') squeeze their way [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Ros Try this for size (excuse the pun) :) http://www.nvsuk.org.uk/garden_equipment/pest-weed-control/product.php?pr=844 ny good?  SignaturePete C London UK >> I've searched in vain in every garden centre near me for a smaller >> mesh and found nothing smaller than my smallest, which seems to be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >http://www.nvsuk.org.uk/garden_equipment/pest-weed-control/product.php?pr=844 >ny good? Thanks Pete, I'll look into this. Ros > which may be of interest to some of you. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Wally sounds good to me Wally - I hate those cabbage whites :( SignatureTrust yourself. You know more than you think you do. (Dr. Spock) http://valerie.aries.googlepages.com/ariesval >> which may be of interest to some of you. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > sounds good to me Wally - I hate those cabbage whites :( But we mustn't kill flutterbyes :( SignaturePete C London UK >>> A short time later I saw that the b/flies had got out and >>> flown off but the ones that I hit with the spray where [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > But we mustn't kill flutterbyes :( And I keep telling them they mustn't lay eggs on my cabbages, but do the listen???? anyway I didn't kill them, they committed suicide by getting too close to me. :o) Wally > And I keep telling them they mustn't lay eggs on > my cabbages, but do the listen???? > anyway I didn't kill them, they committed suicide by > getting too close to me. :o) Rather than use any chemicals, my late father and I used to spend many a happy hour on our allotment rubbing the butterfly eggs from the cabbage leaves with thumb and forefinger. Those we missed soon turned into caterpillars which also had to be picked off. As we grew a wide range of Brassicas, for us, netting was out of the question. Happy days indeed. MD >> sounds good to me Wally - I hate those cabbage whites :( > > But we mustn't kill flutterbyes :( Precisely! I just go round every morning and squish any eggs I find and if any do manage to hatch into caterpillars they get fed to the birds ;-) > Fairy liquid is fast becoming my best friend. Would this work on those dreaded whitefly? My brassicas are infested with them :( Every time I turn over the leaves in search of butterfly eggs, a cloud of white "ash" descends upon me <GRRR> >> Fairy liquid is fast becoming my best friend. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Every time I turn over the leaves in search of butterfly eggs, a cloud of > white "ash" descends upon me <GRRR> Give it a try Sandy, you've got nothing to lose, last year it got rid of whitefly on my Brussels sprouts and also gets rid of blackfly on beans. BTW, I've been on the allotment this morning and no butterflies on the greens, don't know if its the taste or the smell of soap but the little sods don't like it. Wally >> Fairy liquid is fast becoming my best friend. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Every time I turn over the leaves in search of butterfly eggs, a cloud >of white "ash" descends upon me <GRRR> I only ever use dilute fairy liquid for any spraying, aphids or whatever. SignatureGordon H |
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