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Muddymike - 27 Jul 2008 15:33 GMT
Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I would
seek advise from the wisdom of this forum.
I have just cleared this area of the garden.
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Garden/Muddymike.10533?sort=5
I removed a bucket and a half of bulbs from here and want to plant two or
three flowering shrubs. It looked awful before and as it is situated right
outside the bedroom window of the holiday apartment we let I want it to look
better.

This seems to like it here,
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Garden/Muddymike.10534?sort=5
so what else would do well and give colour all summer?

Four types of bulb removed. Third from the left are Bluebells but what are
the others?
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Garden/Muddymike.10535?sort=5
I would like to re plant these in a clearing up in the woods, but the area
does not get a lot of direct sunlight.

One other question. This Hebe
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Garden/Muddymike.10531?sort=5
Looks wonderful both when in flower and when not. Sadly it is now covering
half the path and I would like to cut it back. How/when would be the best
way to cut it back without spoiling its shape.

I have also just shot another walkround, will upload and post later if
anyone is interested.

Mike
Judith in France - 27 Jul 2008 15:49 GMT
> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I would
> seek advise from the wisdom of this forum.
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>
> Mike

I certainly am interested Mike, I love your shots.  I'm not good at
suggesting anything to anyone who knows so much more than me!

However, I can help you on in identifying your flower bulbs,
mushroom, white radish, onions and shallot (G)  Yes, I am joking!!!!

Judith
K - 27 Jul 2008 16:26 GMT
Muddymike <MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> writes
>Four types of bulb removed. Third from the left are Bluebells but what
>are the others?

Are you sure you mean 3rd from the left? It's the odd-shaped white ones
which look like bluebells to me. 3rd from left look more daffodilly.
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Muddymike - 27 Jul 2008 18:44 GMT
> Muddymike <MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> writes
>>Four types of bulb removed. Third from the left are Bluebells but what are
>>the others?
>
> Are you sure you mean 3rd from the left? It's the odd-shaped white ones
> which look like bluebells to me. 3rd from left look more daffodilly.

There were no daffs in that bed at all and I am pretty sure the third from
left were the ones I removed the remains of bluebells from. The odd shaped
white ones had tall grass like stems with a purple bobble thing at the top.
I have some more elsewhere will try to get a picture.

Mike
K - 27 Jul 2008 21:32 GMT
Muddymike <MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> writes

>> Muddymike <MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> writes
>>>Four types of bulb removed. Third from the left are Bluebells but what are
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>white ones had tall grass like stems with a purple bobble thing at the top.
>I have some more elsewhere will try to get a picture.

Grasslike with purple bobbles sounds like Allium

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Sacha - 27 Jul 2008 22:34 GMT
On 27/7/08 21:32, in article 6Oi3btJatNjIFw0F@scarboro.demon.co.uk, "K"
<k@scarboro.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Muddymike <MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> writes
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>>
> Grasslike with purple bobbles sounds like Allium

Chives?  ;-)
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AriesVal - 27 Jul 2008 17:55 GMT
> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I would
> seek advise from the wisdom of this forum.
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Mike

Interesting photos of your house and garden Mike.  I like the new shed :)
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Anne Welsh Jackson - 27 Jul 2008 18:50 GMT
> Four types of bulb removed. Third from the left are Bluebells but what are
> the others?
> http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Garden/Muddymike.10535?sort=5
> I would like to re plant these in a clearing up in the woods, but the area
> does not get a lot of direct sunlight.

From the left: Allium, bluebells, daffodil and ?? something I don't recognise.
The last ones are pretty small - could they be snowdrops or crocus?

(That's my guess, anyhow)

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Bob Hobden - 27 Jul 2008 22:53 GMT
"Anne Welsh Jackson" wrote after

>> Four types of bulb removed. Third from the left are Bluebells but what
>> are
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>
> (That's my guess, anyhow)

The last ones look just like the thousands of bulbs in a neighbours garden
I've been keeping tidy, an allium but I don't know which. Chive like foliage
in the early spring and white flowers on a stalk, not in a tight head like a
lot of alliums. Nearest I've found is Allium cowanii but I'm not convinced.

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Spider - 28 Jul 2008 18:41 GMT
> "Anne Welsh Jackson" wrote after
>>
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> head like a lot of alliums. Nearest I've found is Allium cowanii but I'm
> not convinced.

I agree with Allium, bluebell and daffodil.  The mystery bulbs I think may
be muscari.

Spider
Judith in France - 27 Jul 2008 18:58 GMT
> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I would
> seek advise from the wisdom of this forum.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Mike

Mike I think the last one on the right is Crocosmia (spelling?).  I
have just dug up a load of Crocosmia Lucifer and they look the same.

Judith
Sacha - 27 Jul 2008 19:38 GMT
On 27/7/08 18:58, in article
9266d93c-4da6-4f34-b375-8c52dc3262b8@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Judith
in France" <judith.lea99@googlemail.com> wrote:

>> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I would
>> seek advise from the wisdom of this forum.
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> Judith

Well, I thought that but then I thought they'd be in flower now and he'd
know what they are.  The other possibility is Gladiolus nanus, perhaps?
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Judith in France - 28 Jul 2008 10:58 GMT
> On 27/7/08 18:58, in article
> 9266d93c-4da6-4f34-b375-8c52dc326...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Judith
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> Sachahttp://www.hillhousenursery.com
> South Devon

I hadn't thought of that, mine are in flower but they have tripled
their number every year so I have dug a lot of them away from the back
as they were toppling over the front ones.  As for gladioli, I know
nothing !

Judith
Sacha - 27 Jul 2008 19:35 GMT
On 27/7/08 15:33, in article
EZKdnVonefaCFBHVnZ2dnUVZ8vKdnZ2d@brightview.com, "Muddymike"
<MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> wrote:

> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I would
> seek advise from the wisdom of this forum.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Garden/Muddymike.10534?sort=5
> so what else would do well and give colour all summer?

You could plant a cardoon.  They come up fairly early here, develop huge
leaves that spread widely and then produce a wonderful artichoke type flower
at the top in late summer/autumn.  They're guaranteed show stoppers but they
die back in winter
http://cheesebyhand.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/cardoon_thistle.jpg

But in terms of good value I think I'd go for a Euryops chrysanthemoides or
pectinatus.   Unless you really want to dead head them, you don't have to do
a thing to them other than water them.  They 'stop' themselves and throw out
another shoot which then flowers and throws out another shoot which then
flowers and so on and so forth.  I should think ours are in flowers 8 months
out of 12, maybe even more.  We have them in pots and in beds and banks.
They won't take deep prolonged frost though.

<snip>

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Muddymike - 27 Jul 2008 19:40 GMT
> On 27/7/08 15:33, in article
> EZKdnVonefaCFBHVnZ2dnUVZ8vKdnZ2d@brightview.com, "Muddymike"
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> out of 12, maybe even more.  We have them in pots and in beds and banks.
> They won't take deep prolonged frost though.

Thanks Sacha.
Sounds nice but I think the frost could be a problem for them here, we
had -14 one night three years back.

Mike
Sacha - 27 Jul 2008 22:34 GMT
On 27/7/08 19:40, in article
rIydna9pU-W_XhHVnZ2dnUVZ8trinZ2d@brightview.com, "Muddymike"
<MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> wrote:

>> On 27/7/08 15:33, in article
>> EZKdnVonefaCFBHVnZ2dnUVZ8vKdnZ2d@brightview.com, "Muddymike"
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Mike

Whoops!

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South Devon

Sacha - 27 Jul 2008 22:36 GMT
On 27/7/08 19:40, in article
rIydna9pU-W_XhHVnZ2dnUVZ8trinZ2d@brightview.com, "Muddymike"
<MikeRogers@mattishall.org.uk> wrote:

>> On 27/7/08 15:33, in article
>> EZKdnVonefaCFBHVnZ2dnUVZ8vKdnZ2d@brightview.com, "Muddymike"
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Mike

I should have added that you may now know why that was a bulb bed.  You can
also have summer flowering bulbs, if they'll survive your winters OR you
could make the proverbial water feecha there.
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South Devon

beccabunga - 27 Jul 2008 23:34 GMT
Muddymike;806662 Wrote:
> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought
> would
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
> Mike

Suggested shrubs for summer interest: Weigela Bristol Ruby [red flower
and dark red leaves; a shrub rose with repeat flowering; Callicarpa
purple flowers in summer, purple berries in winter.

The happy shrub is St John's Wort.

The Hebe is best cut back after flowering. The one in your photo wil
take quite a lot of pruning.

Bulbs = third from left look like Hyacinth. The left hand ones might b
an allium

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beccabunga
Sandy - 28 Jul 2008 09:09 GMT
> Muddymike;806662 Wrote:
>> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> Bulbs = third from left look like Hyacinth. The left hand ones might be
> an allium.

How come the links Muddymike posted have suddenly morphed into "tinyurl"
links in your reply?!?!

I only noticed as I was looking for the link to the bulbs again as I
have a feeling I might recognise one or two.

I NEVER click on links that use "tinyurl". It's a scammers/phishers
paradise for disguising untrustworthy url's and you have no idea where
the link is going to take you until you've clicked on it and by then it
can be too late!

I'll track back and find his OP for the proper link.
Sacha - 28 Jul 2008 09:21 GMT
On 28/7/08 09:09, in article g6jusr$eiq$1@registered.motzarella.org, "Sandy"
<sandra.66@coldmail.com> wrote:

>> Muddymike;806662 Wrote:
>>> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I
[quoted text clipped - 60 lines]
>
> I'll track back and find his OP for the proper link.

I frequently use tinyurl and have never had a piece of spam from it and have
certainly never sent one.  However, if it worries people I believe it has a
preview facility.
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Muddymike - 28 Jul 2008 10:16 GMT
>> Muddymike;806662 Wrote:
>>> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
> I'll track back and find his OP for the proper link.

I don't use them for the same reason, and believe they are only of value
when the link/url is very long. Here is the link to the bulbs again.
http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Garden/Muddymike.10535?sort=5

Mike Rogers
www.farend.org.uk
K - 28 Jul 2008 10:43 GMT
beccabunga <beccabunga.302d8ea@gardenbanter.co.uk> writes

>Muddymike;806662 Wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Bulbs = third from left look like Hyacinth. The left hand ones might be
>an allium.

There seems to be an emerging consensus that 3rd from left are not the
bluebells ;-)

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sam - 28 Jul 2008 20:04 GMT
> Its too hot to do any more in the garden for a while so I thought I would
> seek advise from the wisdom of this forum.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> outside the bedroom window of the holiday apartment we let I want it to look
> better.

[snip]

> Mike

Mike,I know you want flowering shrubs and I can't help you there.
You say that it's hot and the area is outside the bedroom window
so the window should be open - what about a bit of fragrance?
I have in mind night scented stock. It is a plain annual which only
opens in the night  but when it does the powerful fragrance is marvelous.
Whatever else you guests will remember their stay for, the fragrant
nights will be one of them is my guess.

Yours in gardening,
Sam
Muddymike - 31 Jul 2008 19:46 GMT
>> I have just cleared this area of the garden.
>> http://share.ovi.com/media/Muddymike.Garden/Muddymike.10533?sort=5
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Whatever else you guests will remember their stay for, the fragrant
> nights will be one of them is my guess.

Thanks Sam
I like that idea, and thanks everyone else for the suggestions and bulb IDs.
Have not got back sooner as I have been working in Ireland for a few days
basking in lovely sunshine. Now back in N Yorks to torrential rain that is
destroying my roses :-(

Mike
 
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