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How much sulphur for acidic soil ?

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Vegegrower - 05 Oct 2008 16:14 GMT
I got a B&Q soil tester and it indicated the soil was about PH 9, dar
green on the package scale indicator.

I only grow vegetables such as potatoes, onions, leeks, turnips and th
like and I need to know how much sulphur per square yard or meter do
have to add to reduce the PH of the soil to get it slightly acidi
which it seems is ideal for popular vegetables.

Can any one advise on the amount of sulphur to use please?

many thank

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Vegegrower
David E. Ross - 05 Oct 2008 16:23 GMT
> I got a B&Q soil tester and it indicated the soil was about PH 9, dark
> green on the package scale indicator.
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>
> many thanks

I use about a handful per square yard about once or twice a year.  It
takes a while for sulfur to acidify soil.  Bacteria in the soil slowly
convert the sulfur into sulfuric acid.

However, I also use acidic fertilizers.  These include ammonium sulfate
(very strong, use sparingly) and iron sulfate.  I also use very slight
amounts of zinc sulfate around citrus and a gardenia and magnesium
sulfate (Epsom salts) around my roses.  All of these work rather
quickly.  Unlike plain sulfur, they can readily leach away and might
need frequent renewal.

Calcium sulfate (gypsum) is only weakly acidic.  I use that to improve
my adobe clay, even around plants that prefer an alkaline soil (e.g.,
dianthus, iris, primroses).

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Ed - 06 Oct 2008 12:19 GMT
> I got a B&Q soil tester and it indicated the soil was about PH 9, dark
> green on the package scale indicator.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> many thanks

Don't know anything about turning alkaline soil back towards neutral
with sulphur.  But maybe bulk quantities of manure would help?  The
crops that you've listed would sure like to be well manured!

Even so, how are they doing in the alkaline soil that you have?

Ed
Vegegrower - 07 Oct 2008 16:13 GMT
" how are they doing in the alkaline soil that you have?"

Not to good - as far as the onions go, it wasn't worth the effort o
planting them.

I've read that with to high a PH soil , the nutrients are locked in th
soil and can't reach the roots of the planted vege plants. So I inten
to get some sulphur, sprinkle it over the soil and get the PH down ove
the next few months ready for next year's crops.

I got some leaf mulch to dig in as well!

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Vegegrower
Vegegrower - 09 Oct 2008 16:12 GMT
I've researched the amount of sulphur I need for a 15' x 40' patch o
soil to get form PH8.0 to about PH 5.5.

I believe, based on Espoma product, I need about 13kg so I need t
find
a garden centre in the north east of England that sells in bulk.

Can anyone recommend a seller please

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Vegegrower
David E. Ross - 09 Oct 2008 16:36 GMT
> I've researched the amount of sulphur I need for a 15' x 40' patch of
> soil to get form PH8.0 to about PH 5.5.
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>
> Can anyone recommend a seller please?

Be very careful.  If you add too much sulfur all at once, you might
overwhelm the soil bacteria that convert it into sulfuric acid.  Then,
you will have sulfur doing nothing (not being acidic).  Instead, apply a
little each month.

But if you have such a problem, do indeed buy in bulk.  You will have to
repeat the treatment annually.

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Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening pages at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/>

beecrofter - 07 Oct 2008 14:12 GMT
On Oct 5, 1:07 pm, Vegegrower <Vegegrower.35ec...@gardenbanter.co.uk>
wrote:
> I got a B&Q soil tester and it indicated the soil was about PH 9, dark
> green on the package scale indicator.
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>
> --Sulfur Application Rate

Sulfur tilled in to 6” depth to adjust pH in lbs/1000 sq ft
Use elemental “agricultural sulfur” in a flaked or pelleted form
Existing pH Desired pH Clay  Loam Sandy Loam
8.0 7.0 32 20 8
 6.5 47 29 12
7.5 7.0 16 10 .4
 6.5 32 20 8
7.0 6.5 16 10 4
 6.0 32 20 8

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