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Homeowner Forum / Lawn and Garden / July 2008Why Our Food Waste May Be Our Greatest Asset
http://www.alternet.org/environment/91732/?ses=bf198a3bb2b76dbec603a8ba1e1db5b1 Why Our Food Waste May Be Our Greatest Asset By Ruben Anderson, The Tyee. Posted July 17, 2008. "Composting is key to reducing waste costs, cutting global warming emissions, and increasing urban food security. " Local composting: pick your method Why not build a composting system that does not rely on a constant river of oil, and start saving part of that $15 per tonne -- not to mention lowering our greenhouse gas emissions, cutting down on carcinogenic particulates and reducing the number of noisy trucks waking us in the morning? To cut back on fossil fuels, everything needs to be on a walkable scale. This will require several kinds of composting systems, depending on the neighbourhood density. Many cities offer subsidized backyard composters and balcony worm bins, and this obviously needs to continue. Nothing could be better than closing the loop right at home -- eat food, compost scraps, spread compost on your garden, eat more food. The next scale up would require small apartment buildings to compost on site. If a row of three or four backyard composters won't keep up with the organic flow, small automatic composters use an electric heater to accelerate composting and an auger to automatically turn the compost, producing finished compost in two weeks. For still larger buildings, industrial scale worm composters can really chew through the food. The Mount Nelson Hotel in South Africa uses worms to make short work of leftovers from the artichoke and asparagus assiette. > http://www.alternet.org/environment/91732/?ses=bf198a3bb2b76dbec603a8ba1e1db5b > 1 [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > worms to make short work of leftovers from the artichoke and asparagus > assiette. This looks good. Jack Mountain Bushcraft Journal - 3: Composting <http://youtube.com/watch?v=HT1t3OjVcew> More below. Bill <http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Jack+Mountain+Bushcraft+Journal& search_type=&aq=-1&oq=> Below has about 2400 hits...yikes <http://youtube.com/results?search_query=composting&search_type=&aq=f>  SignatureGarden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA > This looks good. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ><http://youtube.com/results?search_query=composting&search_type=&aq=f> Dammit Bill, I don't have enough hours in the day to keep up with your references and my reading and gardening and caregiving and lovemaking and beer drinking and on and on and on..... ;-) When the hell am I gonna find time to smoke some pork butts and just sit and smoke and think???? Charlie, grinning evilly as I post this quote "Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other people spend it for you." ~~Carl Sandburg > > This looks good. > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other > people spend it for you." ~~Carl Sandburg The kid's on a roll here :o)) SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related Just curious, how long does it take for a household of 2 or 4 people take to generate 1 ton of food wastes. or a better question, do people throw away more food than we need because we buy excess food for our already over sized appetites? NOTE: This question is nothing against composting, its great for the garden, for the environment. I recently got some worms for composting and they work great too. thanks, Simon > http://www.alternet.org/environment/91732/?ses=bf198a3bb2b76dbec603a8... > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > worms to make short work of leftovers from the artichoke and asparagus > assiette. >Just curious, how long does it take for a household of 2 or 4 people >take to generate 1 ton of food wastes. Short answer is ... a long time and dependant upon household, living arrangements and eating habits. Not possible to answer in a general way. >or a better question, do >people throw away more food than we need because we buy excess food >for our already over sized appetites? Likely they do. >NOTE: This question is nothing >against composting, its great for the garden, for the environment. I >recently got some worms for composting and they work great too. You are on the right path. Even if a small amount, utilize it. Care Charlie g'day charlie, too easy hey? all our food waste gets reccyled into our gradens as does all scraps of paper product. but when it comes to industry that creates scraps or waste then the task becomes a lot less simple. snipped With peace and brightest of blessings, len & bev -- "Be Content With What You Have And May You Find Serenity and Tranquillity In A World That You May Not Understand." http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ > g'day charlie, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but when it comes to industry that creates scraps or waste then the > task becomes a lot less simple. Perhaps you could put a finer point on that for me len, I don't seem to be following you. Industrial agriculture doesn't use compost (please correct me if I'm wrong). Industrial agriculture uses petroleum bases fertilizers and pesticides. Now it seems that the businesses that would create the most waste (please correct me if I'm wrong), would be the distribution side of industrial agriculture. These would be the packaging plant where plants and plant parts would be discarded for health and cosmetic reasons and the store front where no amount of misting or brightness of complimentary lighting is going to induce the average fool to buy long dead produce. The problem is getting the plant material to organic farmers to compost. This may be a problem for rural packing houses but shouldn't be a problem in a urban-suburban setting, especially with the recent escalation in food prices. In recent years, organic has been the fastest growing sector of agribusiness. Possibly, pesticide residues could disqualify some produce from organic farm use but that still leaves the private gardener to consume any low toxic composted waste. In any event, having part of their waste removed at no or minimal charges, should be a good thing for packing houses and stores. If the store of packing house could offer compostable materials by the pick-up truck load, they would be saving land fill, and promoting healthier communities. I'm sure there would be some conflict of interest (a chemical agribusiness may not want to aid organic farmers with low cost and plentiful compost material) but hopefully the monetary incentive would induce them to make the material available. It would also show the superiority of organic by its' ability to leave no waste. > snipped > With peace and brightest of blessings, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > http://www.lensgarden.com.au/ SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related In article <wildbilly-6EDAE5.13532018072008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>, > In any event, having part of their waste removed at no or minimal > charges, should be a good thing for packing houses and stores. If the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > available. It would also show the superiority of organic by its' > ability to leave no waste. We had a some meat local packing house that used to put the remains in a holding area. Vultures keep it clean and tidy. But it was decided it was more hygiene to land fill then our vultures a protected species were on their own. They visit my place often and sh.t (Nasty) about now. Bill SignatureGarden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA > In article <fnr184t3oha411lcdnvkr6sblvvitb9...@4ax.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > Billy > Bush and Pelosi Behind Barshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.nethttp://www.youtube.com/watch? v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related When my local market had corn on sale a couple weeks ago, they had a trash barrel so people could shuck their corn right there. People looked at me like I was nuts at first, but after I explained what I was doing, other people also grabbed some bags and filled them up with the husks. The produce manager was delighted, the worms in my composters were delighted, and I am delighted at the thought of all those micronutrients enriching my crops :) Chris In article <f887313d-c8d3-44f0-9baa-a72468e49477@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, > > In article <fnr184t3oha411lcdnvkr6sblvvitb9...@4ax.com>, > > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Chris Crazy is not insane. I have in the past gone to the barbers about to take away hair. My neighbors ask why would you take wood chips. One asked why have a ugly compost barrel. I said it was deleting nuclear waste as she was hostile. Bill SignatureGarden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA > Crazy is not insane. I have in the past gone to the barbers about to >take away hair. My neighbors ask why would you take wood chips. One >asked why have a ugly compost barrel. I said it was deleting nuclear >waste as she was hostile. > Bill You are crazy, Bill. You would be a great neighbor! :-) This prompted me to put on an old favorite, good philosophy. Maybe miracles will happen as we speak........ SignatureCharlie, winamp up, put it on if you have it and sing and dance along!!! Seal - "Crazy" In a church,by the face, He talks about the people going under. Only child know... A man decides after seventy years, That what he goes there for, is to unlock the door. While those around him criticize and sleep... And through a fractal on a breaking wall, I see you my friend, and touch your face again. Miracles will happen as we trip. But we're never gonna survive, unless... We get a little crazy No we're never gonna survive, unless... We are a little... Cray...cray...cray... ...Crazy yellow people walking through my head. One of them's got a gun, to shoot the other one. And yet together they were friends at school Ohh, get it, get it, get it, get it no no! If all were there when we first took the pill, Then maybe, then maybe, then maybe, then maybe... Miracles will happen as we speak. But we're never gonna survive unless... We get a little crazy. No we're never gonna survive unless... We are a little... Crazy... No no, never survive, unless we get a little... bit... Oh, a little bit... Oh, a little bit... Oh... Oh... Amanda decides to go along after seventeen years... Oh darlin... In a sky full of people, only some want to fly, Isn't that crazy? In a world full of people, only some want to fly, Isn't that crazy? Crazy... In a heaven of people there's only some want to fly, Ain't that crazy? Oh babe... Oh darlin... In a world full of people there's only some want to fly, Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy... Isn't that crazy... Isn't that crazy... Ohh... But we're never gonna survive unless, we get a little crazy.. crazy.. No we're never gonna to survive unless we are a little... crazy.. But we're never gonna survive unless, we get a little crazy.. crazy.. No we're never gonna to survive unless, we are a little.. crazy.. No no, never survive unless, we get a little bit... And then you see things The size Of which you've never known before They'll break it Someday... Only child know.... Them things The size Of which you've never known before Someday... Someway... Someday... Someway... Someday... Someway... Someday... In article <b2forewagner-A9461B.19125518072008@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, > In article > <f887313d-c8d3-44f0-9baa-a72468e49477@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > waste as she was hostile. > Bill :o))))))))))))))) SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related >When my local market had corn on sale a couple weeks ago, they had a >trash barrel so people could shuck their corn right there. People [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Chris HA! Two thumbs up! Scroungers abound. Good on ya, Chris. Charlie "When we recycle an organic product, it immediately becomes a natural resource. When organic resources are recycled back into the life stream, the whole environment comes out a winner. There are no losers. The soil life, plant life and animal life all gain tremendously. And all contribute to mans well-being so he wins the greatest." ~~Malcolm Beck, The Father of San Antonio Composting >g'day charlie, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >but when it comes to industry that creates scraps or waste then the >task becomes a lot less simple. Indeed it does, but it is possible with organization. Recently I saw a docuthingie on some folks on the east coast of the US who daily picked up the food waste from numerous restaurants and grocers and made mountains of compost, using front end loaders for turning the piles. It is doable. As locally as possible. We too recycle all waste and proper paper, shredded, thru the comost piles and garden. Vermicomposting is on our list of things to implement. Think globally, act locally. :-) Charlie "Give me a few friends who will love me for what I am, and keep ever burning before my vagrant steps the kindly light of hope... And though I come not within sight of the castle of my dreams, teach me to be thankful for life, and for time's olden memories that are good and sweet. And may the evening's twilight find me gentle still." ~~ unknown to me > >g'day charlie, > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > And may the evening's twilight > find me gentle still." ~~ unknown to me That's what I call a keeper :o) SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related >That's what I call a keeper :o) Me... or the Irish benediction? ;-) Charlie > >That's what I call a keeper :o) > > Me... or the Irish benediction? ;-) > > Charlie Yeah!;0))) SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related > http://www.alternet.org/environment/91732/?ses=bf198a3bb2b76dbec603a8ba1e1db5b1 > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > worms to make short work of leftovers from the artichoke and asparagus > assiette. We give most of our food waste to the chickens; it comes back as eggs. As far as composting, we do that too; see http://home.comcast.net/~rbfarm/mgarden.html for a picture of our three-bin system. We've been using it for three years now and I still haven't built the front doors. I have the plans sketched out but more important project have come along so I just tack wire fencing on the front to keep the compost materials in. Paul |
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