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symplastless - 11 Jul 2008 04:45 GMT
Here are two plants with things going on with the leaves.  Can anyone id any
of the many things going on with these leaves?
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/bobtemp/

Thanks

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John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
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D. Staples - 11 Jul 2008 20:20 GMT
> Here are two plants with things going on with the leaves.  Can anyone id
> any of the many things going on with these leaves?
> http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/bobtemp/

Strange, a tree biologist that does not recognize these simple problems.
symplastless - 12 Jul 2008 02:49 GMT
>> Here are two plants with things going on with the leaves.  Can anyone id
>> any of the many things going on with these leaves?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
> http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

You seem to be the person that has all the answers.  What is simple about
it?

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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

symplastless - 15 Jul 2008 17:59 GMT
First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms on
blueberries.
So some BT with microelements would be a nice way to go.

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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

>> Here are two plants with things going on with the leaves.  Can anyone id
>> any of the many things going on with these leaves?
>> http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/bobtemp/
>>
> Strange, a tree biologist that does not recognize these simple problems.
Don Staples - 16 Jul 2008 03:02 GMT
> First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms on
> blueberries.
> So some BT with microelements would be a nice way to go.

So, who told you?
symplastless - 16 Jul 2008 03:11 GMT
>> First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms on
>> blueberries.
>> So some BT with microelements would be a nice way to go.
>>
> So, who told you?

Not your website
Don Staples - 16 Jul 2008 03:23 GMT
>>> First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms on
>>> blueberries.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Not your website

Obviously not yours, either.
Don Staples - 16 Jul 2008 14:14 GMT
>>>> First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms on
>>>> blueberries.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Obviously not yours, either.

Oh, and by the way, yard man, the leaves show foliar fungus, not a
microelement deficiency.
symplastless - 17 Jul 2008 00:54 GMT
>>>>> First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms
>>>>> on blueberries.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Oh, and by the way, yard man, the leaves show foliar fungus, not a
> microelement deficiency.

Sure, just provide the data where that can be found.

Please provide you optimum fertility level for all 17 ESSENTIAL elements for
healthy blueberries.  At least the 14 coming from the soil.  Keeping in mind
the Law of the minimum.

C; H; N; O; P; K; S; Mg; Ni; Fe; Ca; Zn; Mo; Mn; B; Cl; Cu

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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

Chris - 17 Jul 2008 01:27 GMT
> >>>>> First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms
> >>>>> on blueberries.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
> will give them understanding.

Wow. I haven't heard anyone refer to the Law of the Minimum in at
least two decades :)

Chris
D. Staples - 17 Jul 2008 05:09 GMT
>>>>>> First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms
>>>>>> on blueberries.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Sure, just provide the data where that can be found.

Any biology, dendrology, plant physiology, tree disease text that you never
read, yard man.
symplastless - 18 Jul 2008 02:47 GMT
>>>>>>> First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms
>>>>>>> on blueberries.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Any biology, dendrology, plant physiology, tree disease text that you
> never read, yard man.
Be specific and give me the page number where the data can be found for the
essential elements.

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Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

D. Staples - 18 Jul 2008 04:20 GMT
>>>> Oh, and by the way, yard man, the leaves show foliar fungus, not a
>>>> microelement deficiency.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Be specific and give me the page number where the data can be found for
> the essential elements.

For a "Tree Biologist" you get an "F", wrong on both counts, and you
continue with this "essential elements" crap when it does not apply.

> Sincerely,
> John A. Keslick, Jr.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
> that will give them understanding.
symplastless - 18 Jul 2008 18:15 GMT
>>>>> Oh, and by the way, yard man, the leaves show foliar fungus, not a
>>>>> microelement deficiency.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
> http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Again, provide me with the data on opt. fertility levels for 17 essential
elements and blueberries.  Please list page and paragraph where the reviewed
and published data can be found in international reviewed publications.  You
have to provide same data.  Not just because Don Staples says so, but
because work has been done, published and reviewed by peers and such.  Not
here say but published data on opt. fert. for blueberries and the research
done to obtain this data.

Just because Don Staples says so is not good enough to satisfy the courts.
Come on, get real.

Signature

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

Jangchub - 18 Jul 2008 19:25 GMT
>Again, provide me with the data on opt. fertility levels for 17 essential
>elements and blueberries.  Please list page and paragraph where the reviewed
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Just because Don Staples says so is not good enough to satisfy the courts.
>Come on, get real.

Why?  I provided you with data, complete date at that and you didn't
read it.  Why would you expect anyone to take anything you say
seriously?  I think  you have something wrong with you.
Don Staples - 18 Jul 2008 21:24 GMT
>>>>>> Oh, and by the way, yard man, the leaves show foliar fungus, not a
>>>>>> microelement deficiency.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> peers and such.  Not here say but published data on opt. fert. for
> blueberries and the research done to obtain this data.

Again, dumb a.s, it was the identity of two problems, common to trees, that
you, a "consulting yard boy" should have known, yet did not.  Fertility
levels had nothing to do with the original question, or the problem.  I will
not play your dumb a.s games, you are a fraud.

> Sincerely,
> John A. Keslick, Jr.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
> that will give them understanding.
symplastless - 19 Jul 2008 17:43 GMT
>>>>>>> Oh, and by the way, yard man, the leaves show foliar fungus, not a
>>>>>>> microelement deficiency.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
> http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Obviously you do not have the data.  Oh well not much more to talk about.

Bye Bye.

Signature

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

Jangchub - 19 Jul 2008 20:37 GMT
>Obviously you do not have the data.  Oh well not much more to talk about.
>
>Bye Bye.

You are the one who asked the question, so it's YOU who obviously
don't have the data.
Chris - 20 Jul 2008 01:21 GMT
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:43:10 -0400, "symplastless"
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> You are the one who asked the question, so it's YOU who obviously
> don't have the data.

He feels a need to wave something around in public that the rest of us
don't want to see. That's his problem, to be honest.

Chris
Jangchub - 17 Jul 2008 17:20 GMT
>First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms on
>blueberries.
>So some BT with microelements would be a nice way to go.

Ask and answer your own questions now?  Not bag worms, leaf roller
maybe and sick from a fungal problem.
symplastless - 18 Jul 2008 02:47 GMT
>>First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms on
>>blueberries.
>>So some BT with microelements would be a nice way to go.
>
> Ask and answer your own questions now?  Not bag worms, leaf roller
> maybe and sick from a fungal problem.

If you say so.

Signature

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and  www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

Chris - 18 Jul 2008 05:14 GMT
> >>First there appears to be a manganese deficiency and young bag worms on
> >>blueberries.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> If you say so.

Not that bad a call- why not 'splain something instead of just sound-
biting?

Chris
 
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