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Bill - 07 Jul 2008 16:54 GMT

³For many years, SNiP has provided our customers with free access to
USENET newsgroups. Due to the limited use of this service by our
customers, SNiP will be suspending this service beginning Tuesday, June
24, 2008.

Customers who wish to continue to receive this service can subscribe on
their own to a third-party news provide such as Giganews
(www.giganews.com). Giganews offers plans starting at $7.99 per month
and unlimited plans starting at $24.99 per month. Some newsgroups can
also be accessed via the web through Google Groups (groups.google.com),
which is a free service. Other providers can easily be found by looking
up the word "Usenet" in a search engine of your choice.³

I went with supernews for the binaries. Giganews bought supernews.

Bill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

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Tom J - 07 Jul 2008 21:46 GMT

> ³For many years, SNiP has provided our customers with free access to
> USENET newsgroups. Due to the limited use of this service by our
> customers, SNiP will be suspending this service beginning Tuesday,
> June 24, 2008.

http://www.news.astraweb.com/
This is the best thing going as for as newsgroups are concerned. NO
MONTHLY FEE.
110 GB $25
and there is no experation on these 110 gigabits!!
At my rate of use, I have about 1,000 years to go. :-)

Tom J

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Dioclese - 08 Jul 2008 06:36 GMT

> ³For many years, SNiP has provided our customers with free access to
> USENET newsgroups. Due to the limited use of this service by our
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> Bill

For the po' folk, working poor, rural folks that don't have access to
hi-speed access; there exists still internet service providers that have
their own usenet (genuine) new servers free of charge. Phone modem is
adequate for text as normally used in newsgroups except for those
downloading copied movies, nude movies, and child porn.

If you don't know the difference, check out the definition of usenet/ news
server vs. instances like giganews and its sister Google for news. Usenet,
and, news servers that hold usenet data, have been around much, much longer.

For that matter, except in the cases where you have to download large data
like SP3 for XP, most people don't really need hi speed internet. Unless,
of course, you're into nudity, illegally copied movies, or, child porn.

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Speculation on a product or material that is
an obvious need, is not speculation per se
as there is no risk to the speculator.
Common were those selling food and other
supplies in the gold rush days.
In this case, its oil and its everyone who
bites the bullet. And most everyone has no gold
to be made, just business as usual.

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Billy - 08 Jul 2008 15:16 GMT

> For that matter, except in the cases where you have to download large data
> like SP3 for XP, most people don't really need hi speed internet. Unless,
> of course, you're into nudity, illegally copied movies, or, child porn.

I suppose that if you have the time, personally I get bored waiting for
a web page with an embedded video ad to load. How far ahead do you have
to plan to watch U-Tube, or the French news from TF2, or the German news
on Deutsche Welle, or even alt.binaries.clip-art? Then there are the
people who get a busy signal when they try to call you because you are
on dial up and waiting on your download. I suppose the best thing, if
you've got time to burn and don't need graphics, would be a ham radio
and morse code.

As far as nudity, after yesterday, I'm all for it. If you can think
about sex in this heat, I'd take my hat off to you, if I was wearing
one;o)

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Bill - 08 Jul 2008 15:46 GMT

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<wildbilly-64F5D4.07163708072008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,

> > For that matter, except in the cases where you have to download large data
> > like SP3 for XP, most people don't really need hi speed internet. Unless,
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> about sex in this heat, I'd take my hat off to you, if I was wearing
> one;o)

<http://youtube.com/watch?v=TJjuTNVs9MI>

How about some cool poetry ?

Bill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

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Billy - 08 Jul 2008 16:59 GMT

In article
<b2forewagner-3872FC.10463908072008@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,

> In article
> <wildbilly-64F5D4.07163708072008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
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>
> Bill

105F yesterday, according to the fish wrap, but the poetry stole the
sting of its' blisters. Thanks for bringing Spring back to the garden.

Fear I'm gonna' be needing more salve tomorrow. Time to button up the
house again.

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Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
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Charlie - 09 Jul 2008 05:40 GMT

>For the po' folk, working poor, rural folks that don't have access to
>hi-speed access; there exists still internet service providers that have
>their own usenet (genuine) new servers free of charge. Phone modem is
>adequate for text as normally used in newsgroups except for those
>downloading copied movies, nude movies, and child porn.

Funny you didn't mention availability of mp3s.

And warez.

>If you don't know the difference, check out the definition of usenet/ news
>server vs. instances like giganews and its sister Google for news. Usenet,
>and, news servers that hold usenet data, have been around much, much longer.

Feh! Sevearl years ago it was postulated that roughly 7% of online
users had any effing clue about The Usenet and was relatively ignored
by by the great unwashed and Them. Now Usenet is trashed up with
webbies that don't have any friggin' idea about that in that which they
participate.

Witness the latest post in RGE...."Hi.. I'm new and I just joined..."
gardenbanter horseshit.

>For that matter, except in the cases where you have to download large data
>like SP3 for XP, most people don't really need hi speed internet. Unless,
>of course, you're into nudity, illegally copied movies, or, child porn.

Funny you didn't mention availability of mp3s.

And warez.

Charlie

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Dan L. - 10 Jul 2008 00:56 GMT

> >For the po' folk, working poor, rural folks that don't have access to
> >hi-speed access; there exists still internet service providers that have
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>
> Charlie

Hmmm ....

Extra information for those that may not know. I have a feeling most
people here do know about other usenet newsgroups that are out there.
Even if your internet service provider does not provide for a full
usenet newsgroup service, one can still find some free newsgroups out
there.

There are many usenet newsgroups that have their own free servers.
For example I subscribe to "adobeforums.com" (free) as well as the
forums that Comcast provides through Giganews. Many of the servers that
cost money like Giganews often picks up the free servers as well as
provide their own newsgroups.

Example: Adobe has several newsgroups that is not carried by Giganews.
And yes, the usenet newsgroups are all Adobe Software related. And yes
one first has to go to "adobe.com" web site to start a log-in process.
Once that is done, enter the server name "adobeforums.com" and enter
your login id then a new separate list of newsgroups will show up in
your news reader. One reason I like this group is that many of the
people on line are actual adobe employees answering the questions of
peoples postings - not just users responding to users for help like the
web based forums.

There are many such news groups out there. One just has to Google and
find them. It is time consuming, but one can find a source of
information of ones' interest that is not normally found in Giganews or
other pay for services... without the ads, pop up messages and pics.

Enjoy Life ... Dan

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rmorton - 10 Jul 2008 01:02 GMT

>>> For the po' folk, working poor, rural folks that don't have access to
>>> hi-speed access; there exists still internet service providers that have
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> Enjoy Life ... Dan

Having been bit by the big three shutting down access to usenet, I again
went in search of free news servers and there are many out there. Most
do not accept any binary posting and some do not allow postings of any
kind. A quick Google search will turn up enough to keep you busy for a
few days until you can find one you like.

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