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Homeowner Forum / Lawn and Garden / July 2008My first post
Hi guys, Bought my first house and spent a few quid getting the garden sorte which included levelling out the lawn and returfing it. At first, the grass looked great but, a month later or so, there wa the odd weed popping up. 3 Months on and there's weeds coming throug everywhere, and now there even mushrooms growing. I've been cutting i about every two weeks... What should I do to try to sort it? Thanks in advance Inch -- inchy Nitrogen makes weeds grow faster.  SignatureDo to the overwhelming amount a negative criticism by a few individuals on this list, I am only willing to get into debate by way of email. I have a background in tree biology, my negative critics do not. I am willing to answer any questions you may have. If I do not have the answer I know where to get it, based on a thorough understanding of tree biology. Contact me at treeman@treedictionary.com A good foundation for understanding trees, associates and treatments, can be found here: www.shigoandtrees.com Most topics, correct planting, mulching, pruning and fertilization can be found at www.treedictionary.com Happy gardening! Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Tree Biologist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that will give them understanding. > > Hi guys, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks in advance > Inchy > Nitrogen makes weeds grow faster. Tell us of your education in biology, tree or otherwise, yard man. >Tell us of your education in biology, tree or otherwise, yard man. He asked me for a definition, so maybe he really doesn't know. Funny, that. v >Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Thanks in advance >Inchy Mushrooms are a good sign the soil has fungi. They are the fruiting bodies of fungi, so mushrooms/good. One thing to do with weeds in the turf is to keep it mowed fast enough so no weed goes to seed. Unfortunately, when you disturb the soil by leveling, it awakens seeds which may have been laying there for a good, long while. Keep them mowed. You may want to do a search on corn gluten meal. It is a natural fraction of the corn which causes a fungi in the soil (again good) which stops seeds from germination. It works very well if you apply it as suggested. Good for you on the new home. v 'Jangchub[_2_ Wrote: > ;801159']Mushrooms are a good sign the soil has fungi. They are th > fruiting > bodies of fungi, so mushrooms/good. Good, because now there are loads of them, probably about 80 in a 5m 7m area... Not too happy about the kids playing on the grass though, would a "wee and feed" type product kill them off -- inchy > 'Jangchub[_2_ Wrote: > > ;801159']Mushrooms are a good sign the soil has fungi. They are the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Not too happy about the kids playing on the grass though, would a "weed > and feed" type product kill them off? It's gotta be BSE:o( What part of healthy didn't you understand? SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related 'Billy[_5_ Wrote: > ;802592'] > > It's gotta be BSE:o( What part of healthy didn't you understand? Kids eating dirty mushrooms... Yeah, dead healthy -- inchy > 'Billy[_5_ Wrote: >> It's gotta be BSE:o( What part of healthy didn't you >> understand? -- > > Kids eating dirty mushrooms... Yeah, dead healthy! if the kids are stupid enough to be putting things in their mouths without asking if they are edible, there's a bigger problem than a few mushrooms in the lawn. lee SignatureLast night while sitting in my chair I pinged a host that wasn't there It wasn't there again today The host resolved to NSA. enigma;802728 Wrote: > if the kids are stupid enough to be putting things in their > mouths without asking if they are edible, there's a bigger > problem than a few mushrooms in the lawn. > > lee Thanks for that constructive comment you tosser. Kids are kids, the do random stuff like that. Like a 2 yr old is going to as permission... I pity your kids, sounds like they have to ask permissio to breathe. Thanks for the other comments guys - I'll just try to mow it more ofte and see how it goes -- inchy > enigma;802728 Wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks for the other comments guys - I'll just try to mow it more often > and see how it goes. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related >enigma;802728 Wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >do random stuff like that. Like a 2 yr old is going to ask >permission... Two year olds need constant attention to insure that they don't do dumb sh.t. Pay attention to your toddler and don't allow them to be in unsafe and questionable areas. >I pity your kids, sounds like they have to ask permission >to breathe. Heh heh, not bloody likely. I would hazard a guess that lee paid attention and taught her children well. >Thanks for the other comments guys - I'll just try to mow it more often >and see how it goes. And pay attention to your children. CHarlie 'Charlie[_2_ Wrote: > ; > Two year olds need constant attention to insure that they don't d > dumb > sh.t. Pay attention to your toddler and don't allow them to be in > unsafe and questionable areas. *ensure* - pay attention to your dictionary Unsafe areas? A garden lawn shouldnt be an unsafe area, hence why came on this website in the first place - to ask how I can get rid o them -- inchy > 'Charlie[_2_ Wrote: > > ; [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > came on this website in the first place - to ask how I can get rid of > them. Well, let it be said that Alex and Ed gave you the toxic or, Monsanto approach to poisoning your environment. Pat gave the best advice on the problem you requested to solve. The rest of us gave you sh.t because of an apparent lack of interest in the subject you were trying to correct. Hopefully if your car's motor was making an odd clicking sound and you asked strangers hoe to fix it, you wouldn't accept the suggestion of pouring sawdust into the crankcase without checking the reasonableness of the assertion. Not all ecological damage is done out of malice. Most of it is done by thoughtlessness. Hopefully, the next yard project you have, you will know that your actions have consequences. Working with nature, you won't have those cans of poison lying around the house for your toddlers to get into. Get the mushrooms identified. They are probably harmless. Sorry for the rough treatment, but sometimes you have to hit a jack-a.s between the eyes with a 2 x 4 to get its' attention ;o) SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related >>enigma;802728 Wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > don't do dumb sh.t. Pay attention to your toddler and > don't allow them to be in unsafe and questionable areas. two year olds can understand "don't put that in your mouth" or "don't eat those". for the most part, a two year old shouldn't be unattended anyway, so, since an adult would be present, they could steer the child away from the mushrooms if needed. personally, i'd rather teach a two year old not to eat mushrooms than poison the lawn so it's unsafe for a child to play there. >>I pity your kids, sounds like they have to ask permission >>to breathe. > > Heh heh, not bloody likely. I would hazard a guess that > lee paid attention and taught her children well. exactly. my kid has a brain. he doesn't put things he finds into his mouth without asking me if they are edible or not. when he was two, we had a simplified version called 'people food, bird food'. i would point to the lovely bright red berries on the daphne (very poisonous) & say "bird food". i'd show him wild black raspberries & say "people food". he's almost 8 & asks if he encounters something unfamiliar (currents & mulberries recently, since neither grows here). he has a good working knowledge of what local wild plants are edible & what might look good, but isn't. lee SignatureLast night while sitting in my chair I pinged a host that wasn't there It wasn't there again today The host resolved to NSA. > 'Billy[_5_ Wrote: > > ;802592'] > > > > It's gotta be BSE:o( What part of healthy didn't you understand? > > Kids eating dirty mushrooms... Yeah, dead healthy! Maybe you should try some, to make sure they are all right. We might save the soil yet :o)) SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related In article <wildbilly-620DCD.17582008072008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>, > > 'Billy[_5_ Wrote: > > > ;802592'] [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Maybe you should try some, to make sure they are all right. We might > save the soil yet :o)) The point is inchy is that you are trying to fix something you don't understand. Much of the soil on this planet has been killed or damaged by thoughtless people who were just reading the application instructions and had no idea about the consequences of their actions. Mushrooms and fungi breakdown dead material (otherwise we'ed be up to our armpits in the stuff) into products that are nutrients to other plants. Work with the mushrooms. Your best advice came from Pat Kiewicz. "If you are only mowing every two weeks, you very likely aren't mowing often enough and are mowing it too short when you finally do mow, stressing the turf and opening it up to weeds. You have to let the turf set the mowing schedule, if you want it to looks its best. Mow at your mower's highest setting and mow often enough that the new growth you remove is 1/3 or less of the set height. So if your set height is 3 inches (not an unreasonable height for cool season grasses in the summer) your clippings should be no longer than 1 inch. And, ideally, the clippings are left on the grass. And be sure to keep those mowing blades sharp. The straight line difference between my lawn and my neighbor's lawn isn't due to the difference in watering or fertilizing. My sprinklers (hardly used this year) and broadcast spreader just are't that accurate. It's all down to mowing. I mow tall, as often as needed (sometimes twice a week) and he mows short, every couple of weeks. Yes, I do a lot of mowing, but it's pretty good exercise--I substitute it for one of my normal work-outs. And I use a smallish cordless electric mower, so it's a lot of walking back and forth. " So you can work with nature for the health of the planet or you can be dependent on fossil fuels in the form of biocides and make Monsanto happy. SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related In article <wildbilly-8BB077.06502609072008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>, > In article > <wildbilly-620DCD.17582008072008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Maybe you should try some, to make sure they are all right. We might > > save the soil yet :o)) Rewrite The point is inchy is that you are trying to fix something you don't understand. Much of the soil on this planet has been killed or damaged by thoughtless people who were just reading the application instructions and had no idea about the consequences of their actions. "Bacteria" and fungi breakdown dead material (otherwise we'ed be up to our armpits in the stuff) into products that are nutrients to other plants. Work with the mushrooms. Your best advice came from Pat Kiewicz. "If you are only mowing every two weeks, you very likely aren't mowing often enough and are mowing it too short when you finally do mow, stressing the turf and opening it up to weeds. You have to let the turf set the mowing schedule, if you want it to looks its best. Mow at your mower's highest setting and mow often enough that the new growth you remove is 1/3 or less of the set height. So if your set height is 3 inches (not an unreasonable height for cool season grasses in the summer) your clippings should be no longer than 1 inch. And, ideally, the clippings are left on the grass. And be sure to keep those mowing blades sharp. The straight line difference between my lawn and my neighbor's lawn isn't due to the difference in watering or fertilizing. My sprinklers (hardly used this year) and broadcast spreader just are't that accurate. It's all down to mowing. I mow tall, as often as needed (sometimes twice a week) and he mows short, every couple of weeks. Yes, I do a lot of mowing, but it's pretty good exercise--I substitute it for one of my normal work-outs. And I use a smallish cordless electric mower, so it's a lot of walking back and forth. " So you can work with nature for the health of the planet or you can be dependent on fossil fuels in the form of biocides and make Monsanto happy. SignatureBilly Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related >> 'Jangchub[_2_ Wrote: >> > ;801159']Mushrooms are a good sign the soil has fungi. They are the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >It's gotta be BSE:o( What part of healthy didn't you understand? Fookin' gardenbanter posts are as fookin' dumb as google posts. sh.t man, why you gotta play with the idiots, not countin' me, of course. Gawddamned idiots and their poisons and dumb fookin' ideas. Krusty Charlie > 'Jangchub[_2_ Wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > inchy Yes, I think you could kill off all the children by using weed and feed and/or weed killer! Emilie >'Jangchub[_2_ Wrote: >> ;801159']Mushrooms are a good sign the soil has fungi. They are the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Not too happy about the kids playing on the grass though, would a "weed >and feed" type product kill them off? Yeah, in about twenty years, if we don't all go tits up by then. Don't be adding to the fookin' toxic load with poison!! Sheesh Charlie > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks in advance > Inchy Use weed killer. There are loads of brands you can use on lawns. Ed inchy said: >Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >everywhere, and now there even mushrooms growing. I've been cutting it >about every two weeks... If you are only mowing every two weeks, you very likely aren't mowing often enough and are mowing it too short when you finally do mow, stressing the turf and opening it up to weeds. You have to let the turf set the mowing schedule, if you want it to looks its best. Mow at your mower's highest setting and mow often enough that the new growth you remove is 1/3 or less of the set height. So if your set height is 3 inches (not an unreasonable height for cool season grasses in the summer) your clippings should be no longer than 1 inch. And, ideally, the clippings are left on the grass. And be sure to keep those mowing blades sharp. The straight line difference between my lawn and my neighbor's lawn isn't due to the difference in watering or fertilizing. My sprinklers (hardly used this year) and broadcast spreader just are't that accurate. It's all down to mowing. I mow tall, as often as needed (sometimes twice a week) and he mows short, every couple of weeks. Yes, I do a lot of mowing, but it's pretty good exercise--I substitute it for one of my normal work-outs. And I use a smallish cordless electric mower, so it's a lot of walking back and forth. SignaturePat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) After enlightenment, the laundry. >Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) > >After enlightenment, the laundry. Great book by Jack Kornfield! Have you read it? Jangchub said: >>Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) >> >>After enlightenment, the laundry. > >Great book by Jack Kornfield! Have you read it? No, I swiped it from The Little Book of Zen. It struck me as simply but profoundly true. SignaturePat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast) After enlightenment, the laundry. > Hi guys, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > -- > inchy Hi Inchy, I can only recommend chemistry: Roundup by Monsanto Regards, Alex PS: have a look at rixa.com - would like to rate your garden... ;-) >> Hi guys, >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >PS: have a look at rixa.com - would like to rate your garden... ;-) If you use Roundup on the lawn, it kills the lawn also. It's non-specific and kills all things green, sans the nutsedge or few other pesky things uneffected by glyphosate. |
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