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Homeowner Forum / Lawn and Garden / May 2007Want to know why the honeybees are dying
Google these two words together Gaucho Honeybee beecrofter <bamboo@localnet.com> expounded: >Google these two words together > >Gaucho Honeybee No kidding. But that's a direct blow to the chemical industry, and we can't have that now, can we [rolls eyes] I had a woman at the McLaughlin Gardens up in Paris, Maine tell me about the wonders of Merit and using it for dealing with the lily beetles. People have no clue.  SignatureAnn, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** On 5/28/07 12:38 PM, in article f91m531ilrrer1bt94eu7t8bjqcosretc0@4ax.com, > beecrofter <bamboo@localnet.com> expounded: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > about the wonders of Merit and using it for dealing with the lily > beetles. People have no clue. If I could make it just kill the lily beetles, I'd be very happy. But since I know better, I have dispensed with my liliums. C Cheryl Isaak <cherylisaak@comcast.net> expounded: >If I could make it just kill the lily beetles, I'd be very happy. But since >I know better, I have dispensed with my liliums. Yea, I gave mine up, too. Nasty little bastards! :o( SignatureAnn, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** >beecrofter <bamboo@localnet.com> expounded: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >about the wonders of Merit and using it for dealing with the lily >beetles. People have no clue. Do you want to hear something sad? Over thirty years ago I worked for a Bayer subsidiary, Cutter/Haver-Lockhart, animal health division, as a quality control inspector. I still remember and quote often, old Bob, the head of R&D, jokingly telling the drones...."Dammit boys and girls, I want that data to match these results." Was it an effing joke? The stain and shame remains with me to this day. Every time I see or hear the name Bayer I feel dirty. That was the end of the Yellow Brick Road for me. We went back to the farm, so to speak, and pulled in the edges around us. They Care Only for the Profits CHarlie > Google these two words together > > Gaucho Honeybee I have a fully blooming garden with squash and cucmbers flowering and I have yet to see one single bee this year. Johnny > > Google these two words together > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Johnny Take a male flower and break it off and use it as the brush to bring some pollen to the female flowers beecrofter <bamboo@localnet.com> expounded: >> > Google these two words together >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Take a male flower and break it off and use it as the brush to bring >some pollen to the female flowers Or find your local beekeeping association and become a beekeeper. It's fun, educational, and good for your garden! SignatureAnn, gardening in Zone 6a South of Boston, Massachusetts e-mail address is not checked ****************************** > Google these two words together > > Gaucho Honeybee Everytime I voice my opinon regarding this, my reply is removed from the server. So, you fill in the blanks. Answer: Control of farming industry and negating any local gardening by the consumer. How would you as a controlling participant, in such, attack this issue? Dave > > Google these two words together > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > issue? > Dave Talk to John Bachman. He is the IPM pro here. He doesn't go for the simple over-kill fix. He's in for the long term. John, come on in and join the conversation. - Bill Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) > Google these two words together > > Gaucho Honeybee Take a look at the March/April 2007 issue. http://entomology.ucdavis.edu/faculty/mussen/news.cfm Bill SignatureS Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. On May 29, 4:12 am, William Wagner <not-to-here-william...@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <1180358863.862529.259...@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade Thanks for that, Bill, very interesting and informative. Emilie NorCal OTOH, I am seeing all kinds of bumblebees this spring. Ingrid ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List at http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/ sign up: http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?hl=en&q=puregold&qt_s=Group+lookup www.drsolo.com Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I receive no compensation for running the Puregold list or Puregold website. I do not run nor receive any money from the ads at the old Puregold site. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan > OTOH, I am seeing all kinds of this spring. Ingrid > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Zone 5 next to Lake Michigan I'm saving moths something I never did. Bumblebees are about as usual. Started up my bug light outside our front door to to prevent those moths from killing themselves seeking the light. Bill SignatureS Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. > > Take a look at the March/April 2007 issue. > > >http://entomology.ucdavis.edu/faculty/mussen/news.cfm > Thanks for that, Bill, very interesting and informative. Also recommended: More from Mussen, plus 3 other pros: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/05/29/missing_bees/ In article <not-to-here-williamwag-EC7B35.07120929052007@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews .net>, > http://entomology.ucdavis.edu/faculty/mussen/news.cfm Thanks - Bill Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) > In article > <not-to-here-williamwag-EC7B35.07120929052...@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > - Bill > Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly) Thank you for the link to Dr. Mussen. Salon.com published a panel discussion including Dr. Mussen. Interesting reading as the panelists parse through the various theories and media reports. You can read it here: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/05/29/missing_bees/ As for the poster who wrote about feeling dirty about Bayer -- Bayer AG is a longtime purveyor of death including developing and experimenting the use of mustard gas and other chemicals on inmates in Germany during WWI and WWII, so anytime you use any of their products you are supporting a company that, unlike a number of other German companies, has never apologized to anyone. (I learned this in grade school during the 60's as we were encouraged not to use any Bayer products.) For a basic history of Bayer's misdeeds, go to http://archive.corporatewatch.org/profiles/bayer/bayer5.htm >As for the poster who wrote about feeling dirty about Bayer -- Bayer >AG is a longtime purveyor of death including developing and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >products.) For a basic history of Bayer's misdeeds, go to >http://archive.corporatewatch.org/profiles/bayer/bayer5.htm That would have been me. I wish I had learned this *before* I started with them, rather than learning it on the job. I grew up with the Dupont "Better Living Through Chemistry" school of thought and teaching. Corp Watch is a good reference and I use it often, when making decisions about products. It is sad, and maddening, that it takes so much research to make informed and responsible purchasing decisions. We oftimes think we are about to make a responsible choice, but when you go to digging around, you sometimes encounter the darkness, several layers deep, in the corporate structure. Yet, general awareness *seems* to be increasing, thanks to the efforts of people who are beginning to bang a few pots. Around these here parts, even the generation older than I, the true old geezers, are starting to fart in the general direction of the crooked bastids. Care Charlie |
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