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Tomato Horn Worms

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Tonia Fischer - 07 Jul 2008 02:07 GMT
Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to keep them
from cominig back?  I don't really want to use any manufactured
insecticides.  Is there something else I can do?

TIA
Tonia
Tom J - 07 Jul 2008 02:33 GMT
> Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to
> keep
> them from cominig back?  I don't really want to use any manufactured
> insecticides.  Is there something else I can do?

Put a few in a jar of water and let set for a day, then shake like
crazy to break them down into a liquid mix. Strain and spay on the
tomato vines. Works for me.

Tom J
Omelet - 07 Jul 2008 04:17 GMT
> Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to keep them
> from cominig back?  I don't really want to use any manufactured
> insecticides.  Is there something else I can do?
>
> TIA
> Tonia

BT spray. It's organic.
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Charlie - 07 Jul 2008 05:23 GMT
>> Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to keep them
>> from cominig back?  I don't really want to use any manufactured
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>
>BT spray. It's organic.

So are Cardinals.  Funny thing, two years ago I noticed a pair of
cardinals working through the tomatoes like crazy.  They repeated this
last year.   Upon investigation, they were killing young hornworms like
there was no tomorrow.  Some they were eating, it appeared, but most
they were shaking, pecking and crushing and leaving.  I've no idea
about any of this.  It was a Good Thing at any rate.

Charlie
Omelet - 07 Jul 2008 05:53 GMT
> >> Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to keep them
> >> from cominig back?  I don't really want to use any manufactured
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>
> Charlie

Cardinals can be killers. We did wildlife rehabbing (mostly birds) for
about 15 years.  I learned the hard way to never house fledgeling
cardinals with other birds in a flight cage.

The killed and half-ate two fledgeling doves before I learned.
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Marie Dodge - 07 Jul 2008 07:15 GMT
>> Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to keep
>> them
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>
> BT spray. It's organic.

Aren't there different kinds for different worms?
Tonia Fischer - 07 Jul 2008 07:31 GMT
>>> Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to keep
>>> them
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>
> Aren't there different kinds for different worms?

I'm just looking to get rid of these.  Pulled three from my tomato plant
(only have one and its on the patio planted in a container),  But, it is
about 4 foot tall and round.  Well, I picked off three more tonight.  When I
lived in CA, I had 6 tomato plants; I remember picking off the worms then
feeding them to the birds.  The only birds I have here in Las Vegas are
doves and pigeons.  Plus I had to move my plants up onto the patio because
the sun was literally frying them.  I never knew that tomato, or hook worms,
would eat green pepper plants.  Well, I came out one morning and my pepper
plant was damn near gone.  I picked a worm off of that was as big around as
my pinky finger, but was like 4 inches long.  BTW he ate a whole green
pepper I was growing and waiting until it got a little bigger,

I hear ppl always talk about home insecticides that are made from soap.
Would this help, and what do you use?  Also, what is BT spray?

TIA
Tonia
Omelet - 07 Jul 2008 08:07 GMT
> I'm just looking to get rid of these.  Pulled three from my tomato plant
> (only have one and its on the patio planted in a container),  But, it is
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> TIA
> Tonia

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=BT+for+worms&btnG=Google+Search
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Omelet - 07 Jul 2008 08:05 GMT
> >> Besides pulling them off when you see them. what's a good way to keep
> >> them
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>
> Aren't there different kinds for different worms?

Not from what I've read about it. BT is supposed to kill ALL larval
insect forms. There are water dunks to control baby mosquitos even.
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Glenna Rose - 10 Jul 2008 07:37 GMT
ompomelet@gmail.com writes:
>In article <4871b49b@news.x-privat.org>,
> "Marie Dodge" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
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>Not from what I've read about it. BT is supposed to kill ALL larval
>insect forms. There are water dunks to control baby mosquitos even.

Better than control them, they die!  The mosquito dunks (with a bacteria
in them that is way too long for me to want to type here) are eaten by the
mosquito larvae which kills them. I use them in my fish pond; they work
beautifully.  The water is supposed to be safe for all other life,
insects, animals and plants.  I have an abundance of young dragonflies
(but no mosquitos) so it must be true.  (Also lots of lilies and various
other pond "greenery" some of which isn't welcome.)

Once a month and no new skeeters here though I welcome all existing
mosquitos to my pond to do their thing.  My little bit in "the buck stops
here."  <g>

If the dunks are put in water and the water dries up before the 30-day
life is up, apparently, they reactivate when there is water again.  I
cannot address that since there is always water in the pond.  I do wonder,
however, why they are not being used in all those swimming pools in
abandoned foreclosed homes they talk about being such a problem on the
news.  I'd sure invest in a package and toss them in the pool next door if
there were one there. I drop a quarter of one in each of our bubble basins
on the street, wonderful mosquito brooding pools which are courtesy of our
city fathers of yesteryear.

Glenna
 
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