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The Cook - 21 May 2008 15:28 GMT Here are the results of today's harvest from my garden. That is 1/2 of the chard in a 21 quart canner and the collards are in a 16" colander. Now I have to get busy and start getting the stuff ready to freeze or pickle (beets.)
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Billy - 21 May 2008 16:13 GMT > That is 1/2 > of the chard in a 21 quart canner This is how much chard, and you're doing what with it?
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The Cook - 21 May 2008 18:03 GMT >> That is 1/2 >> of the chard in a 21 quart canner > >This is how much chard, and you're doing what with it? \ Since 1/2 of the chard we picked this morning fit in a 21 quart canner, the total amount of chard was 42 quarts. By the time is blanched I have about 24 cups going into the freezer. There is about 8 or so cups that will be sauteed with onion and garlic tonight.
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Billy - 21 May 2008 18:25 GMT > >> That is 1/2 > >> of the chard in a 21 quart canner [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > blanched I have about 24 cups going into the freezer. There is about > 8 or so cups that will be sauteed with onion and garlic tonight. If you don't mind. It sounds like you're pasteurizing and canning, and then putting the chard in the freezer. Couldn't you just blanche it (3 - 6 min) and put it into freezer bags?
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The Cook - 21 May 2008 19:12 GMT >> >> That is 1/2 >> >> of the chard in a 21 quart canner [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >and then putting the chard in the freezer. Couldn't you just blanche it >(3 - 6 min) and put it into freezer bags? The chard was in the boiling water bath canner while I was processing the rest of it since that is the largest container I have and it wouldn't all fit in the sink. It was not being cooked in it.
I blanched it in small quantities for 2 minutes, chilled it and bagged it in FoodSaver bags. It is now in the freezer and I will seal the bags when it is frozen (or when one of us remembers it is there.) Now time to do the 20 quarts of collards. Can't decide whether I want to preserve the beet greens or not.
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Billy - 21 May 2008 20:34 GMT > >> >> That is 1/2 > >> >> of the chard in a 21 quart canner [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > time to do the 20 quarts of collards. Can't decide whether I want to > preserve the beet greens or not. Thanks
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Billy - 22 May 2008 01:57 GMT In article <wildbilly-84393C.12342521052008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>,
> > >> >> That is 1/2 > > >> >> of the chard in a 21 quart canner [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Thanks Not to be thought a slacker, yesterday I harvested a chard (3/4 was used as an accompaniment to our dinner, the other 1/4 used in salad). Two lettuces replaced the chard in the garden. This morning I picked two strawberries and shared with my significant other. Five anise came out of the germinator. Yesterday I finished planting 26 Dent corn and 6 Mammoth sunflowers. Temps are cooling here and I covered the peanuts with a clear plastic hood so they would stay warm.
I am still in awe of how early the tomatoes have started to bloom.
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Charlie - 22 May 2008 02:09 GMT >Not to be thought a slacker, yesterday I harvested a chard (3/4 was used >as an accompaniment to our dinner, the other 1/4 used in salad). Two >lettuces replaced the chard in the garden. Whoa, Hoss....this confuses me, this replacement thing. Did you harvest the whole chard plant, root and all?
Speaking of greens, have you tried Mizuna? It is receiving 100% in this household, even Lovey, who has a , uhhh, very sensitive palate and lots of taste buds, has given it the thumbs up. It is very prolific.
>This morning I picked two >strawberries and shared with my significant other. Five anise came out [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I am still in awe of how early the tomatoes have started to bloom. Charlie
Billy - 22 May 2008 06:12 GMT > >Not to be thought a slacker, yesterday I harvested a chard (3/4 was used > >as an accompaniment to our dinner, the other 1/4 used in salad). Two > >lettuces replaced the chard in the garden. > > Whoa, Hoss....this confuses me, this replacement thing. Did you > harvest the whole chard plant, root and all? Root and all. It was from a mesclun salad mix that included chard. I need the room for my regular lettuce. I already have a designated area for the chard.
> Speaking of greens, have you tried Mizuna? It is receiving 100% in > this household, even Lovey, who has a , uhhh, very sensitive palate and > lots of taste buds, has given it the thumbs up. It is very prolific. Strangly, I have a packet of mizuna but I haven't sprouted it yet. But then the summer is young.
> >This morning I picked two > >strawberries and shared with my significant other. Five anise came out [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Charlie How's thing goin' out in the "Skunk Works"? Yo plants jumpin' up and givin' you a minstrel show? Anything lookin' different?
Whoa, have I got a book for you. "Stolen Harvest: The Hijacking of the Global Food Supply" by Vandana Shiva. Sound like anybody you know? I've only finished the introduction and this lady is already going for the groin. http://www.amazon.com/Stolen-Harvest-Hijacking-Global-Supply/dp/089608607 0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211432791&sr=1-1 I'm only halfway through, "In Defense of Food", which the library gave me two weeks to read. But "Stolen Harvest" has stolen my heart:o)
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Charlie - 22 May 2008 07:05 GMT >> >Not to be thought a slacker, yesterday I harvested a chard (3/4 was used >> >as an accompaniment to our dinner, the other 1/4 used in salad). Two [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I need the room for my regular lettuce. I already have a designated area >for the chard. OK....I assumed you know what you are about, but just wanted to be sure.
>> Speaking of greens, have you tried Mizuna? It is receiving 100% in >> this household, even Lovey, who has a , uhhh, very sensitive palate and >> lots of taste buds, has given it the thumbs up. It is very prolific. >> >Strangly, I have a packet of mizuna but I haven't sprouted it yet. >But then the summer is young. Well now, get that stuff in the ground. It gets down to business quickly and produces abundantly. It is great fresh and and sauteed.
>> >This morning I picked two >> >strawberries and shared with my significant other. Five anise came out [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >How's thing goin' out in the "Skunk Works"? Yo plants jumpin' up and >givin' you a minstrel show? Anything lookin' different? I've been watching it closely and I am beginning to see some vibrant color and growth. Wishful thinking perhaps? You have your brewer up and running?
I've a batch ready to go and I'll start another immediately. I've started adding 2 TBSP magnesium sulfate to each batch, along with a blender full of pureed dandelion and shepherds purse or whatever good stuff is growing, and rainwater. Added 1 cup of alfalfa meal and/or pellets to the brew bucket.
I finally made it to the feed store and got fifty lbs. of dried molasses. Ten bucks, much cheaper than using store bought blackstrap.
Alfalfa meal and alafalfa pellets......ten bucks per fifty lb bag.
I've several cans of mackeral waiting in the wings....this one should be fun.
I made a big mistake yesterday. I dosed the lettuce patch with tea and fish sauce. Later in the day, I was wandering the garden and nibbling stuff. Wasn't thinking about what I had supplemented and had to do some serious spitting when I ate some lettuce. Fish juice tastes like about like you would expect.
>Whoa, have I got a book for you. "Stolen Harvest: The Hijacking of >the Global Food Supply" by Vandana Shiva. Sound like anybody you >know? Heh heh.....of course.
>I've only finished the introduction and this lady is already >going for the groin. Ain't she wonderful? Sigh.....off to Borders.....again. Thanks......I guess.
>http://www.amazon.com/Stolen-Harvest-Hijacking-Global-Supply/dp/089608607 >0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211432791&sr=1-1 >I'm only halfway through, "In Defense of Food", which the library >gave me two weeks to read. But "Stolen Harvest" has stolen my heart:o) Dammit Billy......'tweenst Left Coast Bill and Right Coast Bill, I am gonna go broke buyin' books. This education stuff is expensive! ;-)
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"Well, it's always a mystery, because you don't know why you get depleted or recharged. But, this much I know. I do not allow myself to be overcome by hopelessness, no matter how tough the situation. I believe that if you just do your little bit without thinking of the bigness of what you stand against, if you turn to the enlargement of your own capacities, just that in itself creates new potential."
"And I've learned from the Bhagavad Gita and other teachings of our culture to detach myself from the results of what I do, because those are not in my hands. The context is not in your control, but your commitment is yours to make, and you can make the deepest commitment with a total detachment about where it will take you. You want it to lead to a better world, and you shape your actions and take full responsibility for them, but then you have detachment. And that combination of deep passion and deep detachment allows me always to take on the next challenge because I don't cripple myself, I don't tie myself in knots. I function like a free being. I think getting that freedom is a social duty because I think we owe it to each other not to burden each other with prescription and demands. I think what we owe each other is a celebration of life and to replace fear and hopelessness with fearlessness and joy."
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Billy - 22 May 2008 17:17 GMT > >> >Not to be thought a slacker, yesterday I harvested a chard (3/4 was used > >> >as an accompaniment to our dinner, the other 1/4 used in salad). Two [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] > > ~~Vandana Shiva She sounds like a cross between Saint Molly and I.F. Stone.
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Billy - 22 May 2008 17:37 GMT > Charlie, who greatly values the following passage, but often falls way > short of the ideal. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > ~~Vandana Shiva http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3968544393356669182&q=John%20Perk ins%20and%20VFP%20National%20Convention&hl=en
is a video of John Perkins (Confessions of an Economic Hit Man), Part 1 The first of a three part speech given to the Veterans For Peace National Convention, Seattle, WA in August 2006.
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Wilson - 22 May 2008 15:14 GMT sometime in the recent past Billy posted this:
> In article > <wildbilly-84393C.12342521052008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au>, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > I am still in awe of how early the tomatoes have started to bloom. Do you use raw chard in your salad and is it just the leaf or stalk too? Never considered eating it raw. Funny the ruts one can get into.
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George Shirley - 22 May 2008 15:40 GMT > sometime in the recent past Billy posted this: >> In article [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Do you use raw chard in your salad and is it just the leaf or stalk too? > Never considered eating it raw. Funny the ruts one can get into. Chard is the only green we grow down here in SW Louisiana as it is the only one I actually enjoy eating. We use just the leaf in salads but when we cook it we use stalk and all. Sometimes we just graze on it as we go through the garden.
Wilson - 22 May 2008 16:21 GMT sometime in the recent past George Shirley posted this:
>> sometime in the recent past Billy posted this: >>> In article [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > when we cook it we use stalk and all. Sometimes we just graze on it as > we go through the garden. Although my grandfather always seemed to have chard in his garden, we never ate the leaves - always just boiled the stalks and had them with a white sauce with butter. Thanks
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Kathi Jones - 23 May 2008 00:09 GMT (big snip)
>>> Do you use raw chard in your salad and is it just the leaf or stalk too? >>> Never considered eating it raw. Funny the ruts one can get into. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > never ate the leaves - always just boiled the stalks and had them with a > white sauce with butter. Thanks ok, so I'm a chard virgin....what does it taste like? how does it compare to lettuce? Spinach? something else?
curious, Kathi
Billy - 23 May 2008 01:42 GMT > (big snip) > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > curious, > Kathi Beets.
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George Shirley - 23 May 2008 02:24 GMT > (big snip) > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > curious, > Kathi Tastes like a very mild spinach to me Kathi. I like it much better than collards, mustard, or spinach.
The Joneses - 23 May 2008 04:32 GMT > (big snip) > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > curious, > Kathi I've found tender young chard better tasting than spinnich and doesn't bolt so quick down here in the heat. m2cw Edrena
J. Clarke - 23 May 2008 11:54 GMT > (big snip) > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > ok, so I'm a chard virgin....what does it taste like? how does it > compare to lettuce? Spinach? something else? It's a beet, just bred to put out lots of greens instead of lots of root. If you've had beet greens you've got the idea.
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Wilson - 23 May 2008 15:56 GMT sometime in the recent past Kathi Jones posted this:
> (big snip) > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > curious, > Kathi I'm going to let someone else answer this, but it is milder than spinach when cooked - I don't know about raw.
"Chard Virgin," hmmmn? Sounds like something you might find next to a volcano ;-)
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Wilson - 28 May 2008 16:10 GMT sometime in the recent past Wilson posted this:
> sometime in the recent past Kathi Jones posted this: >> (big snip) [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "Chard Virgin," hmmmn? Sounds like something you might find next to a > volcano ;-) Hell, I thought it was funny :-(
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George Shirley - 28 May 2008 16:13 GMT > sometime in the recent past Wilson posted this: >> sometime in the recent past Kathi Jones posted this: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> > Hell, I thought it was funny :-( I did too Wilson.
Wilson - 28 May 2008 18:01 GMT sometime in the recent past George Shirley posted this:
>> sometime in the recent past Wilson posted this: >>> sometime in the recent past Kathi Jones posted this: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> > I did too Wilson. Thanks, that feels a little better :-)
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Kathi Jones - 28 May 2008 23:53 GMT > sometime in the recent past Wilson posted this: >> sometime in the recent past Kathi Jones posted this: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> > Hell, I thought it was funny :-( Oh, sorry Wilson - I thought I had replied. Yes it was funny - I had a wee chuckle....
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The Joneses - 29 May 2008 00:09 GMT >> sometime in the recent past Wilson posted this: >>> sometime in the recent past Kathi Jones posted this: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Kathi I'm a vicious spider virgin. Killed plenty, eaten none. And no longer a ribbon slut. But when fruit and sugar's on sale, look out, here comes the jam hussy. Edrena
George Shirley - 29 May 2008 00:15 GMT >>> sometime in the recent past Wilson posted this: >>>> sometime in the recent past Kathi Jones posted this: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > jam hussy. > Edrena You still taking stuff to the Farmer's Market Edrena? State is changing the regulations for labeling home made stuff here and I'm waiting to see what they have to say this time.
I see jams and jellies selling for $5 to $7 a pint and I'm getting interested.
Tomorrow I will put up a few pints of pickled b**ts mit onions and probably more next week. We ate the beet greens tonight with our roast beef and black eyed peas. Had some raw carrots out of the garden for beginners. Tilly Dawg, unlike Sleepy Dawg, has decided carrots are for rabbits. Ol' Sleepy would beg for them, Tilly just spits them out. Spoiled little thing!
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The Joneses - 29 May 2008 00:59 GMT )clipped stuff(
>> I'm a vicious spider virgin. Killed plenty, eaten none. And no longer a >> ribbon slut. But when fruit and sugar's on sale, look out, here comes the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > George Nah, I quit bein' pickle queen a couple years ago. Was too much work for a "hobby." Lots of new friends tho, and lots of socializing. Still got my pickle wings. It's all the way across the range, about 30 miles and just too far for even visiting more than once or twice a month. Haveta plan them trips nowadays. My cat, Shadow Singer, will eat peanut butter... Just don't feed the pup any onyuns, it's toxic for dogs & cats. Edrena
George Shirley - 29 May 2008 02:39 GMT > )clipped stuff( >>> I'm a vicious spider virgin. Killed plenty, eaten none. And no longer a [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Just don't feed the pup any onyuns, it's toxic for dogs & cats. > Edrena Yeah, onions, broccoli, grapes, raisins, a whole list of things that will poison dogs and even some cats. We try not to give Tilly any people food at all. She is getting a knee operated on in a few weeks and needs to lose a few pounds. Seems every one of her littermates has the same problem too.
The Joneses - 29 May 2008 03:02 GMT >> )clipped stuff( >>>> I'm a vicious spider virgin. Killed plenty, eaten none. And no longer a [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > at all. She is getting a knee operated on in a few weeks and needs to lose > a few pounds. Seems every one of her littermates has the same problem too. Yeehaa! Problems never come in ones, do they? I'm looking to do a leetle more research on toxic people food. I nivver knew I was so iggnorent. Up in Santa Fe at the foodie-in last year, they were selling jams for at least that much. And with oil prices to blame everything on, they'll probably get even higher. But there is a one-use jar place up in Albuquerque, I'll dig the name out by and by. If they can get those locally, cuts costs alot. Off to watch the tv with Ol'Whiskerface. Edrena
Ophelia - 31 May 2008 09:58 GMT > Yeah, onions, broccoli, grapes, raisins, a whole list of things that > will poison dogs and even some cats. We try not to give Tilly any > people food at all. She is getting a knee operated on in a few weeks > and needs to lose a few pounds. Seems every one of her littermates > has the same problem too. Let us know how she gets on please.
Melba's Jammin' - 30 May 2008 05:37 GMT > I see jams and jellies selling for $5 to $7 a pint and I'm getting > interested. Are they being purchased at that price or just being offered at that price? Just curious I know people who are willing to pay dang near anything just for homemade quality. Sugar prices bite right now.
> Tomorrow I will put up a few pints of pickled b**ts mit onions and > probably more next week. We ate the beet greens tonight with our roast > beef and black eyed peas. Had some raw carrots out of the garden for > beginners. Tilly Dawg, unlike Sleepy Dawg, has decided carrots are for > rabbits. Ol' Sleepy would beg for them, Tilly just spits them out. > Spoiled little thing! Are you three finally getting used to each other?
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Billy - 29 May 2008 06:08 GMT > > sometime in the recent past Wilson posted this: > >> sometime in the recent past Kathi Jones posted this: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Kathi It was cute but it didn't make me wee.
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Billy - 22 May 2008 17:09 GMT > sometime in the recent past Billy posted this: > > In article [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Do you use raw chard in your salad and is it just the leaf or stalk too? > Never considered eating it raw. Funny the ruts one can get into. Yeah, raw. I just use the small leaves for salads. The chard came in a mesculn salad seed mix and took over part of my salad garden during the winter. Now I want the space back as I already have a patch of chard. Typically, when I cook chard, I do the stems first for about two minutes and then add the sliced leaves. I do this no matter whether I'm blanching the chard (6 - 8 min. max.) or sautéing it with olive oil and garlic (until wilted).
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Katey Didd - 23 May 2008 03:17 GMT > Here are the results of today's harvest from my garden. That is 1/2 > of the chard in a 21 quart canner and the collards are in a 16" > colander. Now I have to get busy and start getting the stuff ready to > freeze or pickle (beets.) snips.....
This week we harvested some leaf lettuce and a few tomatoes and peppers. It's been a very cool spring here this year.
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