Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
besides a gun?
James - 27 Jul 2006 04:55 GMT
> Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
> ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
> eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
> They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
> besides a gun?
Some states allow deer hunting on farmland all year round.
While a bunch of deers can eat a whole community garden, they only eat
a small amount in a large farm. Also deers are easily seen when you
have acres of land with woods to hide in.
J.C. - 27 Jul 2006 14:19 GMT
>> Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer
>> and
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> a small amount in a large farm. Also deers are easily seen when you
> have acres of land with woods to hide in.
Some of us lock the pets up at night and accidently leave a pool or two of
anti-freeze out in the fields. Really hot powdered red pepper sprinkled
around the perimiter, or all throughout it, of a small garden usually does
the trick there.
Plus, the tried and true farmers law, plant 3 of everything, one for the
birds and critters, one for disease and one for yourself.

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The Ranger - 27 Jul 2006 15:45 GMT
>[..] Really hot powdered red pepper sprinkled
> around the perimiter, or all throughout it, of a small garden
> usually does the trick there. [..]
I use the hot pepper powder, too. It's done wonders keeping the feral
toms away. Find an Hispanic or Indian grocery and buy it in bulk so it's
not too much an expense. It'll probably take three spreadings to get
your point across. (Notes: Wear food gloves. Don't rub your eyes.)
Planting garlic throughout my garden has seemed to prevent massive
poaching -- although it did preseason the pears in a bad way. That was
quite a shock.
The Ranger
George - 27 Jul 2006 15:19 GMT
>Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
>ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
>eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
>They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
>besides a gun?
I don't know about the deer, but I'm pretty sure they send the
groundhogs to our place. Some kind of nonaggression pact, or something.
They'll send the squirrels around just when the corn gets ripe.
G
The Ranger - 27 Jul 2006 15:39 GMT
> [..] They'll send the squirrels around just when the corn
> gets ripe.
That explains it! I guess Castle Ranger's simply the outpost where the
suckers bulk up on tomatoes and oranges between their lands and yours.
The "Under Siege" Ranger
Harry Chickpea - 27 Jul 2006 16:28 GMT
>Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
>ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
>eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
>They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
>besides a gun?
A gun is a standard item, as are dogs. Raccoons in particular can
decimate more corn than they can possibly eat. Faced with a large
stand of maturing corn, they become picky eaters, ruining hundreds of
stalks a night in search of the tenderest sweetest kernels. Big
flocks of blackbirds are another problem. Deer are a pest, but deer
damage is usually limited to the outsides of a field, since they like
to see around them and be able to run from predators. Electric fences
are a common deterrant, sometimes with a much larger jolt than fences
used around cattle.
AndyS - 28 Jul 2006 01:01 GMT
> Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
> ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
> eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
> They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
> besides a gun?
Andy writes:
In Texas, we use what is called the " Three S rule"
Shoot
Shovel
Shut up
This way you have meat to go with your veggies..
Andy in Eureka, Texas
Sue - 28 Jul 2006 02:03 GMT
>> Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
>> ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
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> Shovel
> Shut up
The best way to deal with endangered species.
Certain Californians have been known to employ this method, too.
Sue
> This way you have meat to go with your veggies..
>
> Andy in Eureka, Texas
AndyS - 28 Jul 2006 11:43 GMT
Sue wrote:> >
> >Andy writes:
> > In Texas, we use what is called the " Three S rule"
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> Certain Californians have been known to employ this method, too.
> Sue
****** I understand that bald eagle tastes a lot like chicken.....
Andy
William L. Rose - 28 Jul 2006 23:21 GMT
> Sue wrote:> >
> > >Andy writes:
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>
> Andy
You might consider some precambrian, rednecked, alligator mouthed, long
pig to go with that.
Jan Flora - 30 Jul 2006 00:14 GMT
> > Sue wrote:> >
> > > >Andy writes:
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> You might consider some precambrian, rednecked, alligator mouthed, long
> pig to go with that.
LOL

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Sue - 28 Jul 2006 02:08 GMT
>Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
>ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
>eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
>They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
>besides a gun?
My farmer friend tells me that deer really don't do that much total
harm. Around here (San Joaquin Valley, CA), if anything, it would be
coyotes. Easily dealt with with either guns or raw meat laced with
Timic (sp?). Now said farmer friend had a problem one day awhile back
when he needed some additional irrigation pipe that was in a pile
being assiduously guarded by a skunk. He didn't have a gun with him
but was able to wait til the next day for the pipe. Skunk was gone.
Gentleman friend now carries a rifle in his truck.
Sue
Jim Carter - 28 Jul 2006 17:11 GMT
>Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
>They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
>besides a gun?
Woof, woof!
Jim Carter - 28 Jul 2006 17:30 GMT
>Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
>They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
>besides a gun?
Electric fences are also used by farmers. Neither the dog nor the fence
are practical for a large community garden.
Jan Flora - 30 Jul 2006 00:14 GMT
> >Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
> >They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
> >besides a gun?
>
> Electric fences are also used by farmers. Neither the dog nor the fence
> are practical for a large community garden.
Why not? We run electric around 15 acres with a solar charger.
Jan

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Kenneth - 30 Jul 2006 00:41 GMT
>>Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
>>They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
>>besides a gun?
>
>Electric fences are also used by farmers. Neither the dog nor the fence
>are practical for a large community garden.
Howdy,
Electrified fences are not likely to help with the groundhog
part of the problem...
A few years ago I was looking out a second story window and
spotted a large such critter happily eating our veggies
while its hindquarters were wedged under out electrified
fence.
The hair on his back clearly revealed the pulsing of the
voltage, but he seemed not to notice.
All the best,

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Allan Matthews - 31 Jul 2006 20:13 GMT
>Here at the community garden the veggie plants are being eaten by deer and
>ground hogs. The only ting that is going well are beans and corn. They are
>eating everything squash, tomato , peppers etc.Hoe do farmers tolerate this?
>They must lose tons of plants. Do they have some kind of defense mechanism
>besides a gun?
I have lived in farming areas all my life and a few years ago was told
how to protest against deer.
Put up an electric, one strand, smooth wire fence. From the fence,
hand bent strips of thin aluminum about 8 inches long. Place a strip
about every 15 feet of wire. Smear each strip with peanut butter.
This really works although the first deer may tear down the fence as
they jump. No, I am not a member of PETA and I can only imagine
putting your tongue on an electric fence. I just know from personal
use that this method works. I live in Tioga County , NY where white
tail deer are about the same as overgrown rats.
AndyS - 31 Jul 2006 21:16 GMT
> I have lived in farming areas all my life and a few years ago was told
> how to protest against deer.
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> use that this method works. I live in Tioga County , NY where white
> tail deer are about the same as overgrown rats.
Andy comments:
Excellent !! That is a very imaginative approach, and does no
permanent harm to the deer...... I bet it would also work on
wild pigs, which is the problem where I live......
Thanks for the suggestion.....
Andy in Eureka, Texas