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AndyS - 19 Oct 2008 19:08 GMT
Andy asks:

  I have built a room in the attic space and would like to add a
sink and a urinal to it.....

  Is it acceptable to connect the drain line by "T"ing into the
vent stack  from a bathroom below  ??.  It would only be liquid waste
and
low flow.

  The area I live in does not require inspections or permits, but
I'd like to do it in the proper manner if possible.

  Any advice on this from informed sources would be appreciated...

                         Andy in Eureka, Texas
Steve Barker DLT - 19 Oct 2008 19:12 GMT
yes

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>                          Andy in Eureka, Texas
PeterD - 19 Oct 2008 21:41 GMT
>Andy asks:
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>                          Andy in Eureka, Texas

Possibly, but consider that at some time in the future someone may
'extend' this bath and not realize what you did. Also, you'd have to
carefully inspect the existing vent line to ensure that it is able to
handle this type of usage. Most modern vents may well work fine, but
older stuff may not be up to the demand.

Which is not to say I recommend it! I would strongly recommend doing
it right, a proper crapper, and sink, with a decent drain. In the end,
though it would be more work, you'll probalby be happy you did it.
Steve Barker DLT - 20 Oct 2008 00:29 GMT
if the stack is 3 inch or bigger (as it should be) then there's no issue
about "decent" drain or "being up to the demand"

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> it right, a proper crapper, and sink, with a decent drain. In the end,
> though it would be more work, you'll probalby be happy you did it.
AndyS - 20 Oct 2008 01:27 GMT
> if the stack is 3 inch or bigger (as it should be) then there's no issue
> about "decent" drain or "being up to the demand"

Andy writes:

  Well, if I decide to do it this way (being very very convenient for
my
layout), I'll make a point of feeding into it with a PVC pipe of no
greater
than half the diameter of the stack pipe.  Any plumber, or handyman,
who
considers a more agressive system will  know exactly what I have done.

  I only want to drain a little water out of a small sink,
occasionally, and
provide cup of piss and a quart of water to flush it maybe 5 or 6
times a day....

  Beats the hell out of climbing stairs and going to the other end of
the
house.....

   Thanks to everyone for their inputs...

                    Andy in Eureka, Texas
PeterD - 20 Oct 2008 14:52 GMT
>> if the stack is 3 inch or bigger (as it should be) then there's no issue
>> about "decent" drain or "being up to the demand"
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>who
>considers a more agressive system will  know exactly what I have done.

You overestimate what others will 'know', but that's a different
problem.

>   I only want to drain a little water out of a small sink,
>occasionally, and
>provide cup of piss and a quart of water to flush it maybe 5 or 6
>times a day....

Oh, I see. Your wife's planning  to keep you locked in! Interesting
concept! <bg>

>   Beats the hell out of climbing stairs and going to the other end of
>the house.....

Think of it as exercise.

Overall, it should work (I think I said that) but were it my project,
I'd still give  serious consideration to a proper quarter or
half-bath.

There is the potential that at some point you may want to sell the
house. And the real potential that building codes will be implemented.
And at that point, the (only?) prospective buyer wants to know if that
bath is up to code.

>    Thanks to everyone for their inputs...
>
>                     Andy in Eureka, Texas

Good luck, and let us know how it works out. (BTW, you mentioned PVC,
so the existing plumbing may be better than I envisioned.)
PeterD - 20 Oct 2008 14:47 GMT
>>>Andy asks:
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Being in an area where there is no code enforcement, I'd suspect his
stack is not 'as it should be'... <g> That's the big problem, too many
unknowns-we don't know the specifications of the vent stack, how well
it was assembled, or much of anything at all.

(Also please don't top post...)
Steve Barker DLT - 20 Oct 2008 14:50 GMT
I didn't remember seeing anything about 'an area of no code enforcement'.
And that doesn't mean it wasn't done right.

PS.  top posting makes the most sense.  I'll stay here.

s

> Being in an area where there is no code enforcement, I'd suspect his
> stack is not 'as it should be'... <g> That's the big problem, too many
> unknowns-we don't know the specifications of the vent stack, how well
> it was assembled, or much of anything at all.
>
> (Also please don't top post...)
PeterD - 21 Oct 2008 00:27 GMT
>> Being in an area where there is no code enforcement, I'd suspect his
>> stack is not 'as it should be'... <g> That's the big problem, too many
>> unknowns-we don't know the specifications of the vent stack, how well
>> it was assembled, or much of anything at all.
>>
>> (Also please don't top post...)

>I didn't remember seeing anything about 'an area of no code enforcement'.
>And that doesn't mean it wasn't done right.
>
>PS.  top posting makes the most sense.  I'll stay here.

(no, the established Usenet format is bottom posting...) makes reading
the thread *much* easier!

>s

Didn't the original post say there was no building code/inspections?
If it didn't, then my mistake. I seem to recall reading "The area I
live in does not require inspections or permits,"... <bg>

No, you are correct in that something can be done right without
inspections, and I didn't mean to imply that if there are no
codes/inspections that the job won't be done right. If it came across
that way, I appologize.
 
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