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Homeowner Forum / Construction / August 2008Silly question but... Is a toilet required in a home??
I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They want to turn the entire small bathroom into a shower, eliminating the vanity and the toilet. They don't need a toilet (theoretically) since they both have bags and never use a toilet for any reason. I have tried to explain that people come to visit and what are they supposed to do, and it would be a bitch to sell (can you see the real estate ad "Nice three bedroom, no bath. Fabulous shower but no toilet"). I have never seen anything saying that a toilet (or even a bathroom) was a REQUIREMENT in a home. If you didn't mind taking a leak in the kitchen sink, is a toilet necessary BY CODE in a home. I know that seems like a silly question, but I need this one. Thanks everybody. "T. C. Conde" wrote... > I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They want to > turn the entire small bathroom into a shower, eliminating the vanity and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > CODE in a home. I know that seems like a silly question, but I need this > one. I've read a lot of building codes, and come to think of it. I don't recall ever seeing anything that states a toilet is mandatory. It's just assumed. You may want to check with the local Health Dept. Just out of curiosity, where do they empty their bags? Never mind!  Signaturehawgeye © >"T. C. Conde" wrote... >> I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They want to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Just out of curiosity, where do they empty their bags? Never mind! Bwa-ha-ha-ha... Best question yet! AFAIK, even if building codes don't require a toilet, health codes will. And for the very reasons that T.C. wrote (guests...) > I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They want to > turn the entire small bathroom into a shower, eliminating the vanity and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks everybody. In New Jersey you cannot get a certificate of occupancy without a full working bathroom. Call up the local building department and ask them. > I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They want to turn > the entire small bathroom into a shower, eliminating the vanity and the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks everybody. NY State Code reads: §RR306.1 Toilet facilities. Every dwelling unit shall be provided with a water closet, lavatory, and a bathtub or shower. R > > I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They want to turn > > the entire small bathroom into a shower, eliminating the vanity and the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > R International Residential Code has same paragraph. T > > NY State Code reads: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > International Residential Code has same paragraph. The NY State code is essentially the IRC with some modifications. Not quite interchangeable, but close. R > On Aug 19, 2:00 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > International Residential Code has same paragraph. The NY State code is essentially the IRC with some modifications. Not quite interchangeable, but close. R ------------ The municipality of Wimberley, TX also uses the IRC for their basis of building codes. IRC varies depending on the year of publication/release. And, the IRC version (year) used for a basis is part of the law providing for building code that adopts the IRC for a basis in a municipality. Not the IRC per se as you stated. Colostomy bag waste goes to the same place as a person with normally operating excrement functions go to. Shady areas. Some builders use plans only that adhere to some IRC version or some other building code in rural areas of other states that may have no building code, but have the local county may have codes regarding septic system construction. At the same time, there is no requirement to use the local bath facilities for ridding of personal excrement. Point being, the OP may fall into that classification. Guess we will never know... Thus my hesitancy to make a direct reply. SignatureDave > > On Aug 19, 2:00 pm, RicodJour <ricodj...@worldemail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > for building code that adopts the IRC for a basis in a municipality. Not > the IRC per se as you stated. Odd. I'm surprised that the word essentially confused you. :)~ R > I am doing work in a home owned by handicapped paople. They want to > turn the entire small bathroom into a shower, eliminating the vanity and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks everybody. If there's a building code covering the area, a toilet is likely required. I tried to build a cabin on a couple of acres outside of a municipality in Ohio. I not only found that a toilet was required, but it also had to be a standard (water) type -- no composting toilet or outhouse. Further, the land had to undergo a "percolation test" to ensure that the output of the septic tank could be absorbed into the ground. The results of the percolation test also limit the number of people allowed to live in the house. In this case it was all handled through the county building department which issues the building permits. TKM |
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