I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
only.
Dan Espen - 18 Apr 2008 14:47 GMT
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
WOW. Only about 350 45s here.
I recently finished transcribing them to disk and burning them to CDs.
Same with the Vinyl LPs.
I haven't done it yet, but I think I'm going to just toss them now.
I'd have to guess about the shelving. I think plywood by itself
will always sag. You'd need some solid wood to get stability.
Jeff D. - 18 Apr 2008 15:15 GMT
Not an expert on load tables but from what I can understand 3/4" at 4ft
between supports would only be good for about 30lbs ??
>> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection
>> (appx.
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> I'd have to guess about the shelving. I think plywood by itself
> will always sag. You'd need some solid wood to get stability.
John Gilmer - 18 Apr 2008 15:43 GMT
> Not an expert on load tables but from what I can understand 3/4" at 4ft
> between supports would only be good for about 30lbs ??
Yeah, that "sounds" about right.
With a 2' span, it would take 4 times the load to have the same deflection.
That's likely the way to go.
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Smitty Two - 18 Apr 2008 16:15 GMT
> > Not an expert on load tables but from what I can understand 3/4" at 4ft
> > between supports would only be good for about 30lbs ??
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> With a 2' span, it would take 4 times the load to have the same deflection.
> That's likely the way to go.
Maybe the OP can put support the shelves one foot in from each end, with
two feet between supports. Otherwise a little piece of angle iron bolted
to the bottom of each shelf will stiffen it.
Matt W. Barrow - 18 Apr 2008 20:52 GMT
> Not an expert on load tables but from what I can understand 3/4" at 4ft
> between supports would only be good for about 30lbs ??
I have a work bench made with 3/4" plywood doubled over and supported by
metal legs five feet apart.
On top of that bench I have two machine presses that weight about 50-60 lbs
each and using them creates a hell of a lot of additional downward pressure.
It's been going fine for thirty years with zero problems.
hr(bob) hofmann@att.net - 18 Apr 2008 17:42 GMT
On Apr 18, 8:47 am, Dan Espen <dan...@MORE.mk.SPAMtelcordia.com>
wrote:
> > I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> > 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
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> I'd have to guess about the shelving. I think plywood by itself
> will always sag. You'd need some solid wood to get stability.
Some thin metal mounted vertically between the boxes would be a good
idea, 4foot is too long a spread to not get a little sagging. Try
your scheme, and if there is too much sagging for your taste, a thin
aluminum plate would easily fit between a couple of boxes and prevent
the sagging.
Rick Samuel - 22 Apr 2008 04:56 GMT
> Same with the Vinyl LPs.
>
> I haven't done it yet, but I think I'm going to just toss them now.
Toss them??? As in garbage?? Sell em, donate to your church garage sale,
Goodwill, anything.
Dan Espen - 23 Apr 2008 00:15 GMT
>> Same with the Vinyl LPs.
>>
>> I haven't done it yet, but I think I'm going to just toss them now.
>
> Toss them??? As in garbage?? Sell em, donate to your church garage sale,
> Goodwill, anything.
I doubt they have any value.
They've all been played a lot.
The 45s lack the original sleeves.
Despite the condition, I was able to clean up the recordings I made,
sometimes quite well.
jloomis - 18 Apr 2008 15:03 GMT
They may sag, and I would provide a strongback along the front
edege......You will be amazed how much this helps with rigidity. Strongback
like a 1x2 or 1x3.....
I also dado the shelves and glue into the sides and make sure to cleat or
nail the back.
Glue all members.....
jloomis
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
PeterD - 18 Apr 2008 15:07 GMT
>I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
>20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
>15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
>deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
>only.
There are many different types of 3/4" ply, so there is no one
'correct' answer to your question.
Personally, I'd not expect a 4' span to support that much weight, over
a longer term. Eventually it *will* sag.
S. Barker - 18 Apr 2008 16:33 GMT
They will sag with time. BUT if you finish both sides equally, then you can
turn them over now and then.
s
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
dadiOH - 18 Apr 2008 17:24 GMT
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection
> (appx. 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is
> 16x8x9, weighing 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long
> support this load without deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to
> 75lbs with supports on the ends only.
Plug in the numbers here and see...
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tom - 18 Apr 2008 17:52 GMT
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
http://www.stumbleupon.com/demo/?review=1#url=http://www.woodbin.com/calcs/sagul
ator.htm
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dpb - 18 Apr 2008 17:54 GMT
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
Other suggestions ok, my $0.02 be to go w/ the 32" spacing for 2
boxes/shelf instead of 3.
If really, really, really don't want to do that for some reason,
probably can get by if put a 3/8" back on it (which really would need
for stability, anyway) and nail the shelves w/ a 6d finish nail. To
make it a little dressier, rabbet the back edges to inset the ply
instead of just nailing it on the back.
Will need a back or other lateral bracing whatever size you make them.
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Edwin Pawlowski - 18 Apr 2008 18:15 GMT
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
I see you've been given a link for the Sagulator web site. If it determines
you will get too much sag, there are ways of adding strength. Think of an
"I" beam. Adding a strip of wood on the front that is vertical add
considerable stiffness. Adding a back and attaching the shelves to it add
too.
Ed
ransley - 18 Apr 2008 21:37 GMT
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
It might be cheaper and less work to get steel pre made shelves
Jeff D. - 19 Apr 2008 12:09 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions, the sagulator is a great resource. Looks like
3/4 plywood with 2" edging front and back will work nicely.
I checked into steel shelving but the cost (discounting my labor) was higher
and couldn't find anything flexible enough to fit the space I'm using.
On Apr 18, 9:27 am, "Jeff D." <djdiete...@hughes.net> wrote:
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
It might be cheaper and less work to get steel pre made shelves
Joe - 19 Apr 2008 20:21 GMT
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record collection (appx.
> 20,000). The records are stored 200/box and each box is 16x8x9, weighing
> 15lbs. Will 3/4" plywood shelving 4 feet long support this load without
> deflecting, each shelve will be loaded to 75lbs with supports on the ends
> only.
Consider some of the heavy duty shelving at Costco or Sam;s Club. The
product looks good, and will easily hold the weight you anticipate.
Other sources for that kind of shelving are salvage from store
remodelings, often seen on Craigslist or classifieds. Makes sense if
your talking storage and not furniture.
Joe
Edward Hennessey - 20 Apr 2008 06:08 GMT
> I'm building a wall of storage shelving for my 45 record
> collection
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> to
> 75lbs with supports on the ends only.
JD:
I'm generally with the metal crowd. Check industrial surplus
outfits, school surplus liquidation people, take a flyer on
Habitat for Humanity stores and try Craig's List. If the first 3
can't immediately help, ask for their suggestions. Used office
furniture outlets are often ludicrous. Most industrial/commercial
auctions are not good pricewise.
Occasionally you will find one with huge quantities of shelving or
lateral file cabinets where you can
make a buy but you better be in no hurry and live in an
urban/suburban locale. Condition and sufficient units of uniform
appearance will be your problem when dealing with used material,
along with the constant of price .
Plywood on the back of a wood unit is great. So are shelves inset
into that backing. On the front,
if you can find a reasonable surplus source for heavier threaded
rod, you can run that through drilled
holes near the front edge using some of the databases you have to
elect intervals against
sag. Washers and nuts will go on either side of the shelves to tie
them into the rod. If this is
a decorative effect you fancy, you can also put carefully sawed
sections of various kinds of tubing
over the rod between the shelves for the coverup pillar effect.
The ways you can address this
problem are open given imagination and a source of reasonable
materials.
Good luck.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey