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jeffc - 27 Sep 2006 02:02 GMT
Looking into getting a home inspector license.  I went to my library and
they had no books on it at all.  Is the only option going through one of
those expensive online "courses"?  Or, what are all the options?  Here in
NC, I'll be getting an Associate Home Inspectors license first, which
basically means passing an exam then doing a sort of "apprenticeship".  So
it would be studying for that exam, I guess.
tmurf.1@juno.com - 27 Sep 2006 04:00 GMT
> Looking into getting a home inspector license.  I went to my library and
> they had no books on it at all.  Is the only option going through one of
> those expensive online "courses"?  Or, what are all the options?  Here in
> NC, I'll be getting an Associate Home Inspectors license first, which
> basically means passing an exam then doing a sort of "apprenticeship".  So
> it would be studying for that exam, I guess.

You should go to an actual classroom type course which would cost even
more but you get to interact with teachers and other inspectors.  It
will pay for itself with the first lawsuit you DON'T get.  Also check
with the National Association of Home Inspectors or NAHI at NAHI.org
richard - 27 Sep 2006 05:11 GMT
> Looking into getting a home inspector license.  I went to my library and
> they had no books on it at all.  Is the only option going through one of
> those expensive online "courses"?  Or, what are all the options?  Here in
> NC, I'll be getting an Associate Home Inspectors license first, which
> basically means passing an exam then doing a sort of "apprenticeship".  So
> it would be studying for that exam, I guess.

From what I've seen about home inspectors is, they learn to lie.
While you, the buyer, wants to know everything up front, the seller, is
motivating the home inspector to lie in order to sell the house.
If you aren't willing to lie, you will slowly find little work.
Of course, that may be a regional thing and may not apply in your area.
John Reddy - 27 Sep 2006 10:39 GMT
> > Looking into getting a home inspector license.  I went to my library and
> > they had no books on it at all.  Is the only option going through one of
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> If you aren't willing to lie, you will slowly find little work.
> Of course, that may be a regional thing and may not apply in your area.

If the buyer hires the inspector, what would be the motivation for the
inspector to lie?
Mike - 27 Sep 2006 12:43 GMT
>> > Looking into getting a home inspector license.  I went to my library
>> > and
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> If the buyer hires the inspector, what would be the motivation for the
> inspector to lie?
Plus there is a motivation for the inspector NOT to lie. Do you know how
much home inspection insurance is? $5000-$10000 year!!!
AndyS - 27 Sep 2006 16:36 GMT
> If you aren't willing to lie, you will slowly find little work.
> Of course, that may be a regional thing and may not apply in your area.

Andy comments:

 That's true -- it applies mainly to the "blue" states.....

 In Texas, it will get you shot.....

                                    Andy in Eureka, Texas
Kickstart - 27 Sep 2006 11:45 GMT
> Looking into getting a home inspector license.  I went to my library and
> they had no books on it at all.  Is the only option going through one of
> those expensive online "courses"?  Or, what are all the options?  Here in
> NC, I'll be getting an Associate Home Inspectors license first, which
> basically means passing an exam then doing a sort of "apprenticeship".  So
> it would be studying for that exam, I guess.
there is no license in Florida for home inspectors.
Anybody that can print a business card can be one.
Just shows you what kind of job to expect

kickstart
Ron - 28 Sep 2006 10:04 GMT
There was a law (SB 2016) that was passed in 2004 to license home
inspectors. Jeb Bush VETOED it.

>> Looking into getting a home inspector license.  I went to my library and
>> they had no books on it at all.  Is the only option going through one of
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>
> kickstart
tmurf.1@juno.com - 28 Sep 2006 16:43 GMT
> There was a law (SB 2016) that was passed in 2004 to license home
> inspectors. Jeb Bush VETOED it.
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> >
> > kickstart

To assume that home inspectors lie is foolish because the worst thing
you can do for your business is to get caught in a lie.  A reputation
for fairness is worth much more than kissing any real estate agents a.s
would ever be.  When you think about it ,  most realitors would be
better off having satisfied clients rather than having a sale go
through but the client holds a gruge and won't recommend him/her in the
future.
Home inspectors need to be respected more than they need to be liked.
Fairness and honesty is the way to get respect.
tmurf.1@juno.com - 28 Sep 2006 17:00 GMT
> There was a law (SB 2016) that was passed in 2004 to license home
> inspectors. Jeb Bush VETOED it.
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> >
> > kickstart

To say that all home inspectors lie is foolish because the worst thing
an inspector can do for his/her business is to get caught in a lie.
When you lose your credibility you are pretty much out of business.  It
is also foolish for a realitor to want an inspector he recommended to
lie about the condition of a house because the lawyers will blaim them
first.
A satisfied client who knew all the defects before he bought the house
is the best recommendation a home inspector can get.   (Note: Home
inspectors can not see through walls any better than you and they can
not predict the future either.)
AndyS - 28 Sep 2006 22:57 GMT
> There was a law (SB 2016) that was passed in 2004 to license home
> inspectors. Jeb Bush VETOED it.

Andy writes:

 In my experience,  "licensing" does nothing except make it harder
for people to enter the field, and does nothing to insure integrity.

  It is often a case of  a few people wanting to set themselves up
as a "licensing board" so they will have permanent employment.  This
is done by using a politician to pass a law requiring certain steps to
be taken before a license can be issued.  For instance, it may require
yearly dues to be paid to the licensing board.   It may require
licensees
to take yearly courses at community colleges for "continuing
education".
Approval for the colleges is given by the licensing board, FOR A FEE...
   I often requires an apprenticeship of several years to be served at
low wages to "get experience"....  A bone for the inspection companies
to
get cheap labor from a dozen "apprentices" with only one licensed
inspector at the company to "sign off" on the inspections....

  In other words, most licensing of this type is a boondogle to
"pull the ladder up" for existing inspectors.... Almost universally,
"existing" inspectors are grandfathered in and don't have to do
anything except show that they have been in the business for
so many years before the law comes into effect.... This is the only
way the "licensing board" can get support from existing
businesses.....

  It is a racket.  It is done in real estate, professional engineer
licenses,
plummers, electricians, doctors, lawyers, and has not effect at all
upon the ethics in
these professions..... Rarely does a doctor get his license jerked.
Often
there are malpractice cases won, and no license action is taken....

   So, I don't blame the governor for taking a long look at the
utility
of this law.....  I suspect somebody explained the above to him before
shoving the papers in front......

            Andy in Eureka, Texas

Licensed Professional Engineer who never had to take a single
test to get the license------   grandfathered in .....
Jonny - 30 Sep 2006 15:13 GMT
>> There was a law (SB 2016) that was passed in 2004 to license home
>> inspectors. Jeb Bush VETOED it.
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> Licensed Professional Engineer who never had to take a single
> test to get the license------   grandfathered in .....

Licensed home inspectors are required to have additional state recognized
schooling from time to time.  This is rarely taught at community colleges.
That's because the laws change from time to time for homebuilding
requirements.  Grandfathering is not of any substance regarding this.

There exists a state board that investigates complaints against licensed
home inspectors.  The board may fine, or pull their license if found guilty.

More likely, the municipal inspectors (not licensed home inspectors) are
likely to be corrupt in ways to keep the growing business community happy.
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Jonny - 27 Sep 2006 15:23 GMT
> Looking into getting a home inspector license.  I went to my library and
> they had no books on it at all.  Is the only option going through one of
> those expensive online "courses"?  Or, what are all the options?  Here in
> NC, I'll be getting an Associate Home Inspectors license first, which
> basically means passing an exam then doing a sort of "apprenticeship".  So
> it would be studying for that exam, I guess.

Here in Texas, there's 3 options.  An online course, a classroom course, and
apprenticeship under a licensed inspector.  Classroom education is provided
by licensed inspectors.  The laws regarding are TX legislated, and fall
under code for Real Estate law/code.  But, are not the same animal at all.
The bottom line is ability to pass a state monitored test.  While follow-on
inspections with license inspector is highly advised, its not required.  The
education provided by online and classroom is minimal compared to the
knowledge needed to be bonafide home inspector.

Getting the license is only half of the battle, then you need clients,
insurance, a business license, and apply for name for your business to the
state.  Written reports for the customer, and your own results kept within
your business are required.  Your written reports and professional opinion
may be called upon by courts in matters of lawsuits against yourself, a
seller, or a builder.  The home inspector normally may work for a potential
home buyer, but sometimes may work for a realty.  Never both sides of the
fence regarding the same home.
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