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Creating a gable roof out of a mansard roof

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Scout - 20 Jul 2006 22:03 GMT
Hi Everyone,

I've just purchased a new home with a mansard roof which is pretty
ugly.  I'm  looking for an economical way of creating a gable roof over
the top of the mansard roof without removing the old roofing.  Can I
build a new rafter system over the top of this one.  At the same time,
I will remove the side part(the mansard) and replace with siding.  If
this is feasible, how do I tie the new ridge board and rafters securely
to the new roof.
marson - 21 Jul 2006 04:19 GMT
> Hi Everyone,
>
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> this is feasible, how do I tie the new ridge board and rafters securely
> to the new roof.

rafters and ridge board really  don't meet code to my knowledge.  where
rafters are used (rather than trusses) typically you will find a
structural ridge, which is a beam supported by posts.  this would have
to be engineered (which could be done by the company that sells the
beam).  this would be a lot of trouble to retrofit since you would need
to tear into your exterior walls down to the foundation as well as
likely find an interior point down to a new footing..  if the mansard
has a low slope, it might be possible to get a scissor truss to sit
over the whole works (i'm just shooting from the hip here).  otherwise
you are looking at ripping the whole roof off and replacing it.  no
small matter.
Scout - 31 Jul 2006 21:19 GMT
Thanks for your response.  I will be looking into the idea of adding
scissors trusses over the top.  There is a local truss building company
that's going to come in and let me know if it's feasible.  Thanks for
pointing me in a new direction.

> > Hi Everyone,
> >
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> you are looking at ripping the whole roof off and replacing it.  no
> small matter.
Jonny - 21 Jul 2006 11:30 GMT
> Hi Everyone,
>
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> this is feasible, how do I tie the new ridge board and rafters securely
> to the new roof.

Can't be done.  There's no way of tying the rafters to the top plate with
the current roof in place.
The roof is tied to the rafters, not the other way around.
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marson - 21 Jul 2006 13:04 GMT
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
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> Jonny

that part is doable with a simpson ST strap tie or something similar.
JerryD(upstateNY) - 22 Jul 2006 11:31 GMT
What would ever possess you to buy a home that needed a large amount of work
when you don't know how to do the work ?

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> I've just purchased a new home with a mansard roof which is pretty
> ugly.  I'm  looking for an economical way of creating a gable roof
> over the top of the mansard roof without removing the old roofing.
Scout - 31 Jul 2006 20:39 GMT
I'm  simply looking at options at the moment.  I thought the purpose of
my posting here was to find out what can and can't be done and then
take the required steps within my capabilities.  I know how to install
a new roofing system, I'm simply looking for a way to do it without
disturbing the family too much and wanted to know if it could be done
over the top of the existing one.

> What would ever possess you to buy a home that needed a large amount of work
> when you don't know how to do the work ?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > ugly.  I'm  looking for an economical way of creating a gable roof
> > over the top of the mansard roof without removing the old roofing.
 
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