Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion GroupsGeneralRural LivingHome AutomationSecurity AlarmsConstructionRepairPlumbingCleaningPest ControlLawn and Garden

Homeowner Forum / Construction / June 2006



Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Masonry question

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
crhras - 26 Jun 2006 16:02 GMT
What is the purpose of "rubber flashing" which is placed just below the
first course of bricks ?  I also see this same flashing on top of the last
course of bricks just below the lentil.

Thanks,
Curt

longshot - 26 Jun 2006 16:21 GMT
expansion which reduces the cracking

> What is the purpose of "rubber flashing" which is placed just below the
> first course of bricks ?  I also see this same flashing on top of the last
> course of bricks just below the lentil.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt
crhras - 26 Jun 2006 17:06 GMT
So the bricks are allowed to slide a bit ?

> expansion which reduces the cracking
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> Thanks,
>> Curt
longshot - 26 Jun 2006 17:35 GMT
i dont know about sliding so much expanding & contracting....

> So the bricks are allowed to slide a bit ?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>> Thanks,
>>> Curt
Glenn - 26 Jun 2006 18:21 GMT
Point of interest:  I relieved pressure on a brick wall some years
ago from expansion.  This wall was 300' long with no expansion
joints or openings.  It rested on a wall that went on down to the
ground about 50' long on one end and 75' on the other end.  The
center was supported on steel with steel columns and was the
entrance to parking under the main floor   That wall built enough
pressure to shear the support joints on either end and slid 2" on
the short end and 1" on the other a total of 3" expansion.  How
much pressure that would take I have NO idea.  Must have really
popped when it first broke loose.

Anyway when we set up a saw on the wall in 3 places and cut out
vertical slivers to give it room, even then we had trouble because
it would close up on the saw the pressure was so great.  The 3"
still hadn't relieved its pressure.  Someone forgot to tell it was
supposed to expand AND contract.  :)

>i dont know about sliding so much expanding &
>contracting....
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Curt
clintonG - 26 Jun 2006 19:07 GMT
The purpose of the rubberized membrane is to provide a thermal break.

The rubber membrane has nothing to do with expansion control. Think about
this for a moment as it is a real stretch of physics to suggest thousands of
pounds of brick bearing on a steel member seperated by nothing more than a
thin rubberized membrane provides any type of properties other than which it
has been intended to provide; a thermal break which helps reduce
condensation in the wall cavity.

<%= Clinton Gallagher
       NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
       URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/

> Point of interest:  I relieved pressure on a brick wall some years ago
> from expansion.  This wall was 300' long with no expansion joints or
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Curt
rustyjames - 26 Jun 2006 22:57 GMT
> The purpose of the rubberized membrane is to provide a thermal break.
>
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Curt

It's my understanding that it's part of a drainage plane behind the
brick to relieve trapped water/condensation to the weep holes that
should be placed in the wall.
RicodJour - 27 Jun 2006 14:50 GMT
> "crhras" <crhras@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >
> expansion which reduces the cracking

Which direction would that allow the brick to move?  Up?  Expansion
joints in brickwork are breaks in the brick bond with no mortar - the
gaps are caulked.

The flashing the OP is wondering about is a damproofing course.
http://www.pavingexpert.com/dpc01.htm

R
rustyjames - 27 Jun 2006 17:27 GMT
http://www.masonrytechnology.com/mti/product_application.aspx?catid=10&subcatid=0
rustyjames - 27 Jun 2006 17:27 GMT
http://www.masonrytechnology.com/mti/product_application.aspx?catid=10&subcatid=0
tbasc@bellsouth.net - 27 Jun 2006 02:12 GMT
> What is the purpose of "rubber flashing" which is placed just below the
> first course of bricks ?  I also see this same flashing on top of the last
> course of bricks just below the lentil.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt

Look at the BIA (Brick Industry Association) web site.
The Tech Notes section includes flashing.
TB

It's not a legume, it's a lintel.
T ;)
crhras - 27 Jun 2006 02:47 GMT
Lentil/Lintel

Ha, I knew I had it wrong.  Thanks for correcting me. :)

>> What is the purpose of "rubber flashing" which is placed just below the
>> first course of bricks ?  I also see this same flashing on top of the
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> It's not a legume, it's a lintel.
> T ;)
Phil - 27 Jun 2006 10:12 GMT
> What is the purpose of "rubber flashing" which is placed just below the
> first course of bricks ?  I also see this same flashing on top of the last
> course of bricks just below the lentil.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt

DPC?
crhras - 27 Jun 2006 13:16 GMT
What's that ?

>> What is the purpose of "rubber flashing" which is placed just below the
>> first course of bricks ?  I also see this same flashing on top of the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> DPC?
Phil - 28 Jun 2006 16:30 GMT
> What's that ?
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> >
> > DPC?

DPC Damp Proofing Course
or
DPM Damp Proof Membrane
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2009 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.