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Techniques for textured stucco finish

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Apropos - 24 Jun 2006 23:52 GMT
Where can I learn how to apply texutred stucco?  The kind which is common in
FL and CA homes which is apparently created by smearing "blobs" of stucco
finish.

I tried a little of this and it didn't work out at all like I would hope.
The blobs all got smeared together and had very rough edges.

What I'd like to do is *SEE* what the blobs are supposed to look like.  How
big and how close together.  To have some info on the consistency of the mix
and what motion to do with the trowel.  If I had *SOME* idea what this
looked like I could figure out how it would work.

Any websites you know would be of help.  The more pics the better.
Rudy - 25 Jun 2006 08:21 GMT
> Where can I learn how to apply texutred stucco?  The kind which is common
> in
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> I tried a little of this and it didn't work out at all like I would hope.
> The blobs all got smeared together and had very rough edges.

Its a SKILL learned over time.  I wouldn't  "practice" on my own home and
have oogly stucco.  Let the pros do it
crhras - 25 Jun 2006 14:39 GMT
I agree with Rudy.  I just did 2400 square feet of stucco and it came out
beautifully but there were clearly guys on my team who could do it and
others who couldn't.  The ones who couldn't weren't able to be taught in the
time allotted to one project.

I spent my time supervising and making sure that the right guys were
smoothing it on.  The others were mixing and getting the product to them.
If you are in Chicago, I can help you out.

Curt

>> Where can I learn how to apply texutred stucco?  The kind which is common
>> in
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> Its a SKILL learned over time.  I wouldn't  "practice" on my own home and
> have oogly stucco.  Let the pros do it
CB - 28 Jun 2006 01:48 GMT
Is there any contractors in the Chicago area using a direct applied
acrylic stucco similar to "Multicoat - Multi-Tex" stucco?  I'm in the
Des Moines area using it and I'm looking for someone out there, in a
similar climate, that has used or is using this product.  I would like
to know how it has been working in the long term.  Any help would be
great!

Thanks in advance

CB ~

>I agree with Rudy.  I just did 2400 square feet of stucco and it came out
>beautifully but there were clearly guys on my team who could do it and
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>> Its a SKILL learned over time.  I wouldn't  "practice" on my own home and
>> have oogly stucco.  Let the pros do it
crhras - 28 Jun 2006 03:17 GMT
Never heard of it.  We only do traditional stucco and I wouldn't mess with
anything less.

> Is there any contractors in the Chicago area using a direct applied
> acrylic stucco similar to "Multicoat - Multi-Tex" stucco?  I'm in the
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>>> and
>>> have oogly stucco.  Let the pros do it
Apropos - 27 Jun 2006 23:13 GMT
Thank you for your opinion but this is not something beyond my capabilities.
I just need some guidance to get started so I don't have to start from
scratch.  Fact is I can practice on practice boards before I move to the
house.

>  Its a SKILL learned over time.  I wouldn't  "practice" on my own home and
> have oogly stucco.  Let the pros do it
rj - 27 Jun 2006 02:05 GMT
F.Y.I. - Be careful what you call "stucco." The Florida building Code
differentiates between "decorative cementitious coating" (which will almost
always allow the passage of water in a blowing rain - google: ryland homes
stucco class action) and "stucco." See ASTM C926 (Standard Specification for
Application of Portland Cement-Based Plaster) for application information.

> Where can I learn how to apply texutred stucco?  The kind which is common in
> FL and CA homes which is apparently created by smearing "blobs" of stucco
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>
> Any websites you know would be of help.  The more pics the better.
Apropos - 27 Jun 2006 23:15 GMT
Thanks.  I know there are differences.  Since it's in the back of my own
house I'm worried less what to call it and simply in getting the finish coat
on right  :)

> F.Y.I. - Be careful what you call "stucco." The Florida building Code
> differentiates between "decorative cementitious coating" (which will almost
> always allow the passage of water in a blowing rain - google: ryland homes
> stucco class action) and "stucco." See ASTM C926 (Standard Specification for
> Application of Portland Cement-Based Plaster) for application information.
Jeff - 27 Jun 2006 15:35 GMT
All of the responses to you request are correct, this is a learned skill.
this is the technique I learned.

1. follow standard rules for applying vapor barrier, wire lath, scratch
coat, and brown coat.

2. mix a small batch of loose stucco ( about 1/3 to 1/2 joint compound
bucket, use a 1/2" drill to mix it ) and use a masons brush to slap the
stucco onto the wall with the side of the brush ( overlapping the each slap
about 1-2" below the previous slap ) starting at the top along the length of
the wall and working to the bottom.  you will need to remix the stucco in
the bucket as you use it, as the aggregate (sand) will tend to settle.

3. If you are going for a popcorn finish, your done, if you want the smooth
lump look trowel over it, do the trawling while the stucco is still pliable
or you will get hard edges. Remember always trowl from buttom to top or you
will pull the stucco off the wall.

Jeff

> Where can I learn how to apply texutred stucco?  The kind which is common
> in
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>
> Any websites you know would be of help.  The more pics the better.
Apropos - 27 Jun 2006 23:21 GMT
> All of the responses to you request are correct, this is a learned skill.

Yes.  I realize that.  Which is why I'm asking people for guidance.  I know
I can learn this skill with a little practice but there are some variables
which would take time to get right (such as size and distribution of the
splatter and the consistency of the mix).

I appreciate your tips.

> 2. mix a small batch of loose stucco ( about 1/3 to 1/2 joint compound
> bucket, use a 1/2" drill to mix it ) and use a masons brush to slap the
> stucco onto the wall with the side of the brush ( overlapping the each slap
> about 1-2" below the previous slap ) starting at the top along the length of
> the wall and working to the bottom.  you will need to remix the stucco in
> the bucket as you use it, as the aggregate (sand) will tend to settle.

About how much stucco should I try to apply with each slap?  Also how wet
should it be?  Should it be "pasty" and almost like brick mortar or should
it almost be "runny" and not capable of being formed into stiff shapes?

> 3. If you are going for a popcorn finish, your done, if you want the smooth
> lump look trowel over it, do the trawling while the stucco is still pliable
> or you will get hard edges. Remember always trowl from buttom to top or you
> will pull the stucco off the wall.

The existing house is "semi-smooth".  Not popcorn.  I've seen smoother
finishes but at this point I'm not trying to be perfect.

Should I wet the trowel before flattening?
Jeff - 28 Jun 2006 16:47 GMT
this is a quick overview of how to stucco

http://www.quikrete.com/diy/Stuccoing.html

the stucco mix should be very loose, so that you can pick it up with the
masons brush. you will need to re mix often to keep the aggregate suspended
as it will settle quickly. you will need to experiment to find the right
consistency. If you are unable to get any stucco on the brush then its to
stiff.

You brush will only pick up so much stucco mix, it is very difficult to get
to much.

slap the stucco on the cured brown coat hard enough to ensure good contact
and adhesion

smooth it with your trawl while it is still pliable, wet the trowel if
necessary, this will also help to keep the trowel clean.

Good luck

Jeff

>> All of the responses to you request are correct, this is a learned skill.
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> Should I wet the trowel before flattening?
Apropos - 29 Jun 2006 07:38 GMT
Thanks!  Wish it had more pics of doing the finish but I'll take whatever I
can get.

At least hearing what you said and seeing some other things I've gotten some
information.

> this is a quick overview of how to stucco
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> > Should I wet the trowel before flattening?
 
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