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What instrument for vertical measurement?

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Tom Del Rosso - 06 Jun 2006 02:25 GMT
To determine the required height to install microwave radio dishes, I need
to find the heights of obstacles along the signal path, including trees.  I
see that used surveying instruments go for over $500 on ebay, but I only
need vertical measurement.  I get the horizontal from GPS and USGS topo
maps.  What's a good instrument for this that doesn't do more or cost more
than necessary?

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marson - 06 Jun 2006 02:52 GMT
> To determine the required height to install microwave radio dishes, I need
> to find the heights of obstacles along the signal path, including trees.  I
> see that used surveying instruments go for over $500 on ebay, but I only
> need vertical measurement.  I get the horizontal from GPS and USGS topo
> maps.  What's a good instrument for this that doesn't do more or cost more
> than necessary?

google "homemade astrolabe"
Tom Del Rosso - 06 Jun 2006 04:09 GMT
>> To determine the required height to install microwave radio dishes,
>> I need to find the heights of obstacles along the signal path,
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> google "homemade astrolabe"

You made me realize that I do need horizontal measurement as well, because
the astrolabe does no good unless I know my distance from the base of the
obstacle.  I can use GPS to find my position and the rough position of the
obstacle, but I often can't approach very close to it.  Something with both
a rangefinder and verticle angular measurement would do it, but I don't
think a laser rangefinder would reflect well off of a treetop.

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Andy Asberry - 06 Jun 2006 22:07 GMT
>>> To determine the required height to install microwave radio dishes,
>>> I need to find the heights of obstacles along the signal path,
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>a rangefinder and verticle angular measurement would do it, but I don't
>think a laser rangefinder would reflect well off of a treetop.

Add a $10 compass to your high tech toolbox. Shoot a bearing from your
GPS location to the target from two angles (90° is ideal), triangulate
to find the target lat/lon. Or, if you can travel a straight line
toward your target, use the course indicator of your GPS.

--Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy--
Tom Del Rosso - 07 Jun 2006 02:13 GMT
> Add a $10 compass to your high tech toolbox. Shoot a bearing from your
> GPS location to the target from two angles (90° is ideal), triangulate
> to find the target lat/lon. Or, if you can travel a straight line
> toward your target, use the course indicator of your GPS.

Thanks.  I'll try that next time I'm out in the field if I don't find
anything else by then.

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tim - 27 Jun 2006 23:44 GMT
>>> To determine the required height to install microwave radio
>>> dishes, I need to find the heights of obstacles along the
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> don't think a laser rangefinder would reflect well off of a
> treetop.

Use the rangefinder to get level distance from your location (GPS not
required) to base of object.  Use compass/astrolabe/??? to find angle
to top of object from location.  Simple trig to calculate height.  
Phil Scott - 06 Jun 2006 03:19 GMT
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> To determine the required height to install microwave radio
> dishes, I need
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> more or cost more
> than necessary?

when you find what you need...rent one from an instrument
rental company
Mike Robinson - 06 Jun 2006 05:01 GMT
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