The subjects in play: Structural engineering; integration of old and
new construction.
The scenario: We own a nice, 2,100-sf house on a beautiful half-acre
lot in an extremely desireable and rapidly appreciating area. The
original core of the house was a very well-built Cape Cod, late 1940s,
with one full bathroom, one proper bedroom and one walk-through bedroom
downstairs. A 1982 addition (several owners ago) put two BRs and a bath
upstairs in the former attic. The owner before us added a family room
and garage off to one side, and we tweaked the kitchen after moving in
eight years ago.
The upstairs area is certainly liveable but suffers from two drawbacks:
1) Lack of HVAC in the bathroom and stairwell, and 2) Lingering
reminders that it was meant to be an attic. In the latter regard, we
have steeper stairs and squeakier floors than we would wish, as well as
some slight but noticeable cracking and settling downstairs. We also
noticed, months after we bought the place (no great credit either to us
or to our inspector), that support jacks had been installed in the
crawl space under one side of the house -- we presume to deal with the
added weight of the upstairs addition.
Now we are in a position to consider a next step with this place.
Slightly more humble places all around us are being bulldozed to make
way for million-dollar homes. We have no interest in building one of
those. Yet we are strongly wedded to this neighborhood. Our equity and
credit would permit us to do a refi that would allow for a major
renovation, and it's possible that we could afford to do a complete
rebuild (at a scale rather less grand than what has been built all
around us in the past few years). We are highly debt-averse and would
require a really good reason to take on additional borrowing.
We'd prefer to scrape the top off the house, get the upstairs reworked
properly (if structurally possible), and build a wing out the back that
would add square footage and value -- not necessarily in that order.
But we want to make a rational decision, and it's one on which we're
not experts.
Do those basement jacks, and the squeaky floors, mean the top of the
house is already overloaded? Would we just make matters worse by
reconfiguring the second floor?
I doubt those are the only questions we ought to be asking. Any
thoughts will be welcome.
Thanks,
Tom Wood
tbasc@bellsouth.net - 16 Apr 2006 13:49 GMT
I'd ask an architect with experience in residential work to consult.
Make sure you like the architect's recent work.
Set an hourly rate and describe what costs are included.
Specify an interval for reporting and for paying the cost.
The architect may ask that a structural engineer look at things like
cracking and jacks.
I will say that in my experience building new can be less expensive and
produce a more suitable result than trying to work around existing
conditions. As you describe it, one third or more of the house doesn't
suit you and there are several structural issues. That's not much to
work with.
TB
marson - 17 Apr 2006 02:53 GMT
of course it's hard to say without looking at it. i would agree with
tbasc, if you really want to scape of the second floor and put a new
one on. remodelling can get expensive. as for the top of the house
being overloaded, that isn't clear. perhaps the squeaks are the result
of loose 60 year old subfloor, and could be fixed by screwing it down.
and basement jacks don't necessarily mean that the house is ready to
fall down. perhaps they could be replaced with concrete if that seems
necessary.
my other suggestion would be to call a good contractor to have a look
to help decide whether you should start over or remodel.
tbasc@bellsouth.net - 17 Apr 2006 12:52 GMT
Marson, a thoughtful and experienced contractor can speak to the
structural problems with some authority.
I have seen a lot of contractors who produce wildly misleading
information.
I have yet to meet one who has forseen the ripple effects of design
changes.
Architects on the other hand usually are weak on practical building
experience.
That's why I like to team with a builder on most projects.
TB
tom@the-wood-family.org - 17 Apr 2006 15:36 GMT
I appreciate the thoughtful responses here. We are slowly but surely
getting educated about this asset of ours.
Thanks,
Tom
marson - 18 Apr 2006 02:04 GMT
yeah, i wasn't saying that the contractor should do the design. just
help decide if the building is worth remodelling to the extent the OP
is suggesting.
tbasc@bellsouth.net - 18 Apr 2006 02:48 GMT
Right you are, marson.
Rereading my post, I see I should have worded it differently.
We essentially agree and the O.P. seems to find us helpful.
TB
bandbooking@gmail.com - 28 Apr 2006 01:12 GMT
you can fix those squeaky floors forever upstairs or downstairs
http://www.squeakender.com
NapalmHeart - 30 Apr 2006 17:33 GMT
> you can fix those squeaky floors forever upstairs or downstairs
> http://www.squeakender.com
Link didn't work.