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buy a old house or build a new house ?

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greatvalleyshell@yahoo.com - 28 Mar 2006 11:05 GMT
I guss I can buy a old 1970 house for  20% down about 20k with loan
80K, but I prefer to
buy a lot about 20k to build a new house with my budget total 100k, but
I am not sure which way is better because to build a house will take
about 3-6 monthes while old one could be
use to move in right the way. and I don't know if any loan possibile
for 80k to build the house ?
thanks for your recommandation.
marson - 28 Mar 2006 13:07 GMT
depends on the area, but where i am new construction is going for
$150/sq ft.
deviL doG - 28 Mar 2006 13:25 GMT
>I guss I can buy a old 1970 house for  20% down about 20k with loan
> 80K, but I prefer to
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> for 80k to build the house ?
> thanks for your recommandation.

Lots for $20,000? Build for $100,000? Where do you live? Uruguay?
Where I am lots start at $250,000 (steep or wet) and construction starts at
$150 per square foot.
You need to be very disciplined in either case. An old house incurs more
costs to upgrade systems and repair neglect on top of rebuilding existing
components. A new house opens a candy store of possibilities that few
homeowners can resist.
In either case you need to start with a good plan, detailed and
comprehensive specifications, and a specific property in mind to begin to
answer your question.
willshak - 28 Mar 2006 16:36 GMT
>> I guss I can buy a old 1970 house for  20% down about 20k with loan
>> 80K, but I prefer to
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> Where I am lots start at $250,000 (steep or wet) and construction starts at
> $150 per square foot.

Maybe he's not thinking about building a house where you live. There are
big price differences in property, labor, and materials in different
parts of the country, or even within a state. Prices are based on demand
and what the community can be expected to pay. For example: My $400,000
3 BR, 2-1/2 bath, 2 story colonial, on one acre in rural NY would
probably go for $200,000 in some parts of Indiana.

> You need to be very disciplined in either case. An old house incurs more
> costs to upgrade systems and repair neglect on top of rebuilding existing
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> comprehensive specifications, and a specific property in mind to begin to
> answer your question.

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In Hamptonburgh, NY

Grumman-581 - 28 Mar 2006 18:44 GMT
> Lots for $20,000? Build for $100,000? Where do you live? Uruguay?
> Where I am lots start at $250,000 (steep or wet) and construction starts at
> $150 per square foot.

Better question would be where do *you* live so that we know where *not* to
move... $250K for a lot?  Ridiculous...

http://www.har.com/search/idx/DispSearch.cfm?cid=524664&mlnum=3973730&ALLMLS=N&c
lass=5&siteType=AWS&sTYPE=0


1,280 acres -- $224K

http://www.har.com/search/engine/indexdetail.cfm?mlnum=5089051&class=5&leadid=6&
sTYPE=0&backButton=Y

40 acres -- $10K

Oh, want to live a little closer to the city?

http://www.har.com/search/engine/indexdetail.cfm?mlnum=9234339&class=5&leadid=6&
sTYPE=0&backButton=Y

3.31 acres -- $16K

Of course, if you want to live on postage stamp sized lots with neighbors
crammed in like sardines in a can, you can pay ridiculous prices for it in
Houston also...
deviL doG - 29 Mar 2006 00:44 GMT
>> Lots for $20,000? Build for $100,000? Where do you live? Uruguay?
>> Where I am lots start at $250,000 (steep or wet) and construction starts
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> crammed in like sardines in a can, you can pay ridiculous prices for it in
> Houston also...

I live about 30 minutes outside of Boston, Massachusetts. The second most
ridiculous real estate market in the country, by last count.
We got more yupped-up, caffeine addicted, self important overachievers per
square foot than you can believe. I lovingly refer to it as "The Rich
Ghetto". I understand you've got some pretty affluent areas outside of
Houston, don't you?
Grumman-581 - 29 Mar 2006 03:08 GMT
> I live about 30 minutes outside of Boston, Massachusetts. The second most
> ridiculous real estate market in the country, by last count.

Deepest sympathy...

> I understand you've got some pretty affluent areas outside of
> Houston, don't you?

Yep, the lots in the fuckin' "master planned communities" like I live in are
definitely overpriced, but nowhere near as bad as what you describe...  The
land for my house is 0.4 acres and valued at over $63K... It's a big lot for
around here... Typical postage stamp front yard, but a large back yard...
Most back yards around here are barely large enough to put a decent sized
BBQ pit...
deviL doG - 29 Mar 2006 13:10 GMT
>> I live about 30 minutes outside of Boston, Massachusetts. The second most
>> ridiculous real estate market in the country, by last count.
>
> Deepest sympathy...

Oh, you got it wrong, man. I'm a residential contractor in this area. Life
is good.
Plus, I live in a 2500 sq ft house, which I could fit inside the garage of
the houses I build for these crazed folks.
For me, every day is like a day at the circus!

>> I understand you've got some pretty affluent areas outside of
>> Houston, don't you?
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> Most back yards around here are barely large enough to put a decent sized
> BBQ pit...

Myself, being a classic New England Yankee Yankee, any lot of land so small
that you can *see* your neighbor is slumming it. But that is changing here
too, as more subdivisions are selling out where people live right on top of
each other. Mostly populated by transplants from other parts of the country,
who tend to be frightened by the thought of living "out in the woods, all by
themselves".
Grumman-581 - 29 Mar 2006 19:04 GMT
> For me, every day is like a day at the circus!

Shovelling elephant sh.t? <grin>

> Myself, being a classic New England Yankee Yankee, any lot of land so small
> that you can *see* your neighbor is slumming it. But that is changing here
> too, as more subdivisions are selling out where people live right on top of
> each other. Mostly populated by transplants from other parts of the country,
> who tend to be frightened by the thought of living "out in the woods, all by
> themselves".

I grew up on a 100 acre ranch... I've had my fill of dealing wth cattle and
horses, but I definitely like having the bit of elbow room that 100 acres
provides...
Jonny - 28 Mar 2006 14:23 GMT
>I guss I can buy a old 1970 house for  20% down about 20k with loan
> 80K, but I prefer to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> for 80k to build the house ?
> thanks for your recommandation.

Nowadays, that kinda money won't buy a whole bunch.  My rural lot was
purchased on a loan, was 15K for 5 acres in 1995.  Paid off in 2003 ahead of
scheduled loan.  Had house built in 2004 @ 88K, 1200+ sq ft.  Still had to
paint inside, run plumbing to and from house, supply electricity to the
house, do all the flooring in the house.  This added another 5K to the total
invested, plus my own labors.  Add more for landscaping, fence around the
house and so on.

Today's prices, same thing, total is more in the 140s, mostly due to land
price increases and home builder price increases.
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Jonny

greatvalleyshell@yahoo.com - 28 Mar 2006 23:01 GMT
If I paid for home and termite inspection, is that enough to evaluate
the
old house because I don't want to be a last buyer? Thanks.
Jonny - 29 Mar 2006 04:16 GMT
Each case is peculiar to your own particular circumstance.

I rented out my previous home as a business venture per IRS taxes commencing
1995.  As part of the rental expenses, pursued termite prevention by
contract.  As part of that contract, the last termite inspection was
adequate and within time for selling purposes.  Made house payment, plus
applied almost same amount toward principal every month.  The balance of the
loan was paid by the buyer plus my cut.  That house was built in 1992.

I wouldn't put any more money in house if in good condition including
payoff, if I intended to sell that house.
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Jonny

> If I paid for home and termite inspection, is that enough to evaluate
> the
> old house because I don't want to be a last buyer? Thanks.
 
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