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Hello,
I am considering a manufactured home
because they offer a very attractive
price point. However, based on what
I've read on various message boards
I am having serious doubts as to the
viability of these homes. To make
matters more difficult there are no
less than three key players in the
process each of which seem to have
a history of probelms:
1) Manufacture
2) Dealer
3) Setup and Installer
It seems that any or all of these player
can ruin your home buying experience.
My question is basically this. Based on
the horror stories I've seen here and
elsewhere is there any real point in
considering a manufactured home?
Are there people out there who have had
good luck with their manufactured home?
How can one make sure they get a good
deal and their home is delivered and
installed properly?
Also, are the rates of dissatisfaction of
manufactured home owners significantly
higer than "traditional" home owners?
They also have their fair share of
problems.
I really like the cost savings of a
manufactured home but I don't even want
to get involved if it's something that
I'll regret the rest of my life. (I'm
going to put down a sizeable amount of
cash for the down payment -- at least
it's sizeable to me :).
I look forward to your comments.
Kent
dbuckley@mail.com - 24 Aug 2005 13:33 GMT
I have a modular/manufactured home and it is solid...for the last 5
years at least. I'm satisfied with it. Compare your statistic with
the problems encountered with developers/general contractors and you
might find manufactured housing a better/manageable solution. Check
references and only do business with people you feel comfortable
with...and discuss ahead of time how you will deal with potential
problems.
Retiredff - 24 Aug 2005 21:18 GMT
> I have a modular/manufactured home and it is solid...for the last 5
> years at least.
If you are in the U.S., it is either a modular or a manufactured house, not
both.
butch burton - 24 Aug 2005 21:43 GMT
Here is another consideration - looked at these things several years
ago - hard to sell in my neck of the woods - might want to ask - if u
can find one - a knowledgeable real estate person. When sellilng you
might have to take quite a beating.
Lil' Dave - 24 Aug 2005 13:40 GMT
Some outfits will allow you to view their construction assembly. This helps
for comparisons, if you know what to look for.
Some provide a list of buyers who may allow you to personally ask questions
that you generally list.
A manufactured home does not come with land and utilities. Some will
contract the utitliy install for you. Others, you're own your own.
Otherwise, you can lease a lot for that purpose.
If you live in a potentail high wind area, a poorly built manufactured home
can be a major problem. And may even be a survivability concern for both
you and the home.
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Gus - 24 Aug 2005 14:17 GMT
Kent:
I not only sold 'mobile homes' I lived in two of them I was a
customer.
Analyze the hell out of this situation and you still come up with a
mobile home built to lesser standards that a stick built home.
My sister went through your situation and for the same reasons. She
bought a Palm Harbor double wide. I was impressed and even went to
the factory with them.
However the result was still poor plumbing, weird wired switches, no
eves - water runs down walls with vertical seams in the siding, no
attic for air to circulate, vynal wall board that curls at the joints,
......
I just built a home which has already gone up in (tax) value $20K.
Your mobile home would have gone down in value.
BTW - I went with a builder who builds 'track' houses on your
property and paid $54 sq. ft. fully completed with appliances,
flooring, an attic with ridge vents, and 100% brick.
I think this was 10-15% higher than a 'quality' mobile home.
I would suggest looking for a non-custom builder or subscribe to one
of the services that give you a list of reposessions and tax sales of
homes.
Good Luck,
Gus
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NapalmHeart - 24 Aug 2005 19:38 GMT
Manufactured Housing doesn't necessarily mean mobile home. We live in a
2600sqft Cape Cod that is a manufactured home. It has 2X6 exterior walls
and 2X10 floor joists. I had a friend that is a builder look it over and he
said that while there are a few things he would have done differently, he
couldn't fault the construction. Plumbing, electrical, mechanical, and
building are all code-compliant. It is on a 9-foot basement. It has
increased in value the same as a comparable stick built home. Other than
being built in 2 pieces that were put together on-site, the construction is
the same as a stick built. No metal underframe, tongue, or car-type title.
Standard switches and wiring. Standard plumbing fixtures.
Ken
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Retiredff - 24 Aug 2005 21:17 GMT
> Manufactured Housing doesn't necessarily mean mobile home. We live
> in a 2600sqft Cape Cod that is a manufactured home. It has 2X6
> exterior walls and 2X10 floor joists.
Yes, it does, at least in the U.S. By your description, it sounds as if you
live in a modular house.
There are legal descriptions that apply to each, and are recognized by
everyone involved in building, financing, etc.
NapalmHeart - 25 Aug 2005 02:39 GMT
>> Manufactured Housing doesn't necessarily mean mobile home. We live
>> in a 2600sqft Cape Cod that is a manufactured home. It has 2X6
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> There are legal descriptions that apply to each, and are recognized by
> everyone involved in building, financing, etc.
I concede your point, but I guess the question now is did the OP know that
when they posted.
mwildi - 24 Aug 2005 16:45 GMT
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Mobile homes are much better than they once were though as someone pointed
out they still have some problems. One good thing, at least here in Texas
is that they are tax as real property, not real estate which is a
considerable savings.
One of the major drawbacks is how they are financed, since a regular
bank won;t touch them. Generally the dealers get their profit out of the
front end of the note - high closing costs. You might also check with your
secretary of state's office to find out who owns the dealer, the installer,
the finance company and any one else making money on your deal - surprise!
often they are one and the same. The good news is that if you can arrange
cash or independent finance you can get the home for 30% and less of what
they are asking.
kenton.wilson@gmail.com - 25 Aug 2005 00:52 GMT
Thanks for the replies....
kenton.wilson@gmail.com - 25 Aug 2005 01:05 GMT
I guess I failed to mention that it would be on private
land and a permanent foundation. One of those "little"
facts that might make a difference! :)
NuckinFutz - 25 Aug 2005 23:22 GMT
Manufactured = Mobile
Modular = stickbuilt just not on site
In most areas of the country Modular is no different than site built for any
purpose including resale. In fact there is no difference
I would take a standard modular over site built 90% of the time from a
reputable builder. Construction techniques are almost identicle and once its
up you cant tell the difference from stickbuilt.if its done right.
In North Carolina for some weird reason a modular home has a data plate just
like a mobile home and you take a BIG hit on resale.
>I guess I failed to mention that it would be on private
> land and a permanent foundation. One of those "little"
> facts that might make a difference! :)
Retiredff - 26 Aug 2005 01:09 GMT
> Manufactured = Mobile
> Modular = stickbuilt just not on site
To take it a step further:
All manufactured homes (U.S) have to meet the building standards set forth
by HUD (Housing and Urban Development).
Modular houses have to meet the same building code that a stick-built house
has to meet in whatever location it is going to be placed.
Steven - 27 Aug 2005 03:40 GMT
Buying a trailer house (manufactured house) is the equivalent to buying a
car. The day they roll it off the lot, you've lost money. The homes
themselves don't appreciate (although the land they are parked on might).
SO.
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