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Lil' Dave - 28 Jul 2005 13:11 GMT
Maybe slightly OT.  Live in rural area.  5 acres is not fenced off in any
manner.  Recently got a medium-sized dog.  Walk him a.m. and p.m.  But seems
inadequate as he seems miserable chained to the front porch.  Decided to put
a fence around just the house for the dog to roam and run.

Am copying the rural neighbors techniques for a field fencing.  Corner post
with tensioning posts off either corner side, two gates with tensioning
posts on either side of each gate post.  All these are in concrete.  Angled
supports from the upper terminating post to the concrete at the next post.
Went cheap by using landscape timbers for all those.  Neighbors used steel
posts, some were one-piece 90's for corners.  But, I'm not trying to
restrain cattle or horses, just a dog.  Steel T-bars for line posts.

Measured off the house to get the initial lines, then extended these lines
to get general lines for fence posts.  Used some short rebar for temp
markers.  Poured corners and set corner posts, then set the gate posts, then
all the tensioning posts using string line to maintain fence line
straightness, and level for plumbing.  That's where I'm at now.  Will cut
the bevels on the angled supports with a drop saw.

Fencing will be 4' high with one barbed wire at the top.  My question is on
the fence stretching.  I know you need a come-along, and a tool made to tie
the come-along to the fencing, and a straight bar through the fence.  How do
I tie all this together, and stretch the fence?  Weblink with pictures would
be nice.

I did find a PPT that had a step by step procedure with pictures for the
field fence construction, but no specifics on how EXACTLY to stretch the
fencing.
Duane Bozarth - 28 Jul 2005 16:02 GMT
...long story in essence looking for fence wire stretcher...

The best bar none general purpose wire stretcher is the
Maasdam--probably your local farm supply will have them in stock.  To
pull the "bob-wahr" you need the wire clamp grip.  

www.maasdam.com

or a google found several online distributors
Boat_dreams - 28 Jul 2005 20:08 GMT
The specialized wire stretchers are great for stringing straight wire
and small cable, but for general wire fence work and field fencing in
particular you can't beat a lightweight cable come-along.  For field
fencing you also need a bridle to pull evenly top and bottom.  If you're
rich, get one of the bars with sliding hooks made for fence stretching.
 I prefer to use a chain bridle--a steel ring with two 4' lengths of
1/4" chain--chain hook at the ends. And I've used bridles made out of
poly truck rope.  This even works for barb wire and small cable with the
addition of a good pair of vice grips.
Good luck, Boat_dreams.
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> ...long story in essence looking for fence wire stretcher...
> The best bar none general purpose wire stretcher is the
> Maasdam--probably your local farm supply will have them in stock.  To
> pull the "bob-wahr" you need the wire clamp grip.  
> www.maasdam.com
> or a google found several online distributors
Duane Bozarth - 28 Jul 2005 20:25 GMT
> The specialized wire stretchers are great for stringing straight wire
> and small cable, but for general wire fence work and field fencing in
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Good luck, Boat_dreams.
> -----------------------

I guess folks have their preferences, but I'll still take the Maasdam
"PowrPull" which is in essence a lightweight cable "come-along" except
it has a chain hook and small chain for hooking around a corner post
built in and the wire grip clamp(or two for inine pulling) as well.
Plus, it's simple enough to hang the bridle for the woven or other
wire...

No vice grips needed and the bar-type are simply a major pita to use
imo...

imo, ymmv, $0.02, etc., .... :)

> > ...long story in essence looking for fence wire stretcher...
> > The best bar none general purpose wire stretcher is the
> > Maasdam--probably your local farm supply will have them in stock.  To
> > pull the "bob-wahr" you need the wire clamp grip.
> > www.maasdam.com
> > or a google found several online distributors
Boat_dreams - 29 Jul 2005 05:35 GMT
O.K. Gotcha.  A Maasdam is a brand name cable come-along.  I thought it
was one of the horizontal ratchet jacks with cam wire gripper both ends
like some cattlemen use.
Cheers, Boat_dreams.
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> I guess folks have their preferences, but I'll still take the Maasdam
> "PowrPull" which is in essence a lightweight cable "come-along" except
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> imo, ymmv, $0.02, etc., .... :)
Duane Bozarth - 29 Jul 2005 15:35 GMT
> O.K. Gotcha.  A Maasdam is a brand name cable come-along.  I thought it
> was one of the horizontal ratchet jacks with cam wire gripper both ends
> like some cattlemen use.

"Cattlemen" don't have fences...they're open range.  :)

Yes, Maasdam is brand name...the advantage over using a standard
come-along is they're integrated w/ the wire grips and chain hooks for
looping around corner posts....and <much> more handy than any of the
jack types.  (Built a <whole> lot of fence over the years, although in
recent times it's mostly been one-wire electric.  We put up something on
the order of 12-15 miles every fall for wheat/milo stubble pasture over
the winter and take it up in the spring for farming access over the
summer and start over again the next year...)
Lil' Dave - 29 Jul 2005 12:45 GMT
Okay.  Got a 2 ton come-along, metal hooks on either end.  Got a gadget
consisting of a 2x4 / flat steel about the same size  / 6 bolts holding the
two together / 180 degree turn steel thingie on each end.  Guy at the
hardware store says I take apart the gadget by separating the 2x4 from the
flat steel, insert the fence betwixt the bolts, and assemble again.  The
come-along pulls on the steel angles on either end.  Guess this is doing the
bridle thing you spoke of.  He said I could use adjustable straps, or even
nylon rope.  The point, he said, was to keep both sides evenly strained so
to pull the fence evenly.
The other end could be tied off with a strap or nylon rope so not to damage
the wood corners, he said.
He also said not to pull the fence too hard as this is lightweight fencing.
Got 5  lbs of 1.5" galvanized fencing staples/nails for securing to the wood
posts, and future repairs.
Have the general gist of the idea, so will give it a go this weekend when I
get the fencing.

One more question.
Do I terminate the fencing at the corners, or do I continue the fencing
around the corners?  Or, is this a personal decision?
Have 6 corners, four runs are about 45 degrees turns to negotiate around
major trees I didn't want to remove.

> The specialized wire stretchers are great for stringing straight wire
> and small cable, but for general wire fence work and field fencing in
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> > www.maasdam.com
> > or a google found several online distributors
Duane Bozarth - 29 Jul 2005 15:40 GMT
...
> One more question.
> Do I terminate the fencing at the corners, or do I continue the fencing
> around the corners?  Or, is this a personal decision?

...

Yes... :)

For a light fence w/ light corners as you've described, I'd terminate at
the corners.  Not sure exactly what type wire your fencing wire
is...how's the easiest way to terminate depends on the type.  One thing
you'll find really handy is the long-handled fencing tool...it's almost
indispensible for pulling the tension around the post to terminate and
you'll find it a lot simpler if you have a helper--I've done a lot by
myself but it's much more of a pita to have to do so...
 
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