Homeowner Forum / Construction / July 2005

Thank you Phil for the quick response!

So cracking is even normal this early?

You talk like cracks are unusual.
I'd like you to show me a basement floor that doesn't have any cracks.

Possible, but the cracks are also inevitable.   If the
foundation is properly drained there will be no water seepage.

Phil Scott

did you see the pics?  those cracks are unavoidably part of
any large slab.

Phil Scott

rust stains?  I'm not sure which pic your talking about, but the floor
has a lot of dry dirt in  it and I haven't had a chance to clean it up
yet.  If your talking about the dark wet spot, that was were I moved a
trash bag and something had leaked out.

When I was 2 years old I used to live in the grey two story
town houses built before WW2 on the hill... two of them still
standing when I was by there in 1992 approx.  I went to the
apartment we used to live in and got a tour... the coal bins
out front had been removed but the hill behind the building we
were in was still there, a school playing field I believe is
there.

My father worked in Bremerton as a Machinist making torpedo
pin sets (that misfired for a while....they found because the
tolerances were too tight).

My father took me to the Anchor Bar near the ferry landing
from the time I was  2 until I was maybe 4 years old..  one or
two times.  I was back there on a visit in 1992, it was the
same..white and blue..a very long bar.

One of my fathers friends was in the engineering business in
Poulsbo..McKinzie I think but Im not sure...when I was driving
through I recognised the name on a small engineering office
near the water front area.

Strangeness sets in.
L Ron Hubbard, 10 years later the founder of the criminal cult
of scientology was stationed in Bremerton in WW2...he was a
heavy drinkng and druggin' man...with a lying problem.  ..and
later *serious space alien problems.

it gets messy.  For instance in 1965 the CIA funded the SRI
research with Hubbard clones...and lately  Col Wm Odom ex head
of the CIA and NSA heads one of the scienotology now collapsed
pump and dump stock fraud schemes ATEG.  Not the legitimate
one on the dow, but the OTC ATEG...40 million dollars
vaporized.  In 1972 the ex deputy IRS commissioner, Mead
Emmory, living in Seattle now, founds a shell corporation
called CST  (Church of Spiritual Technology) a shell
corporation to hold Hubbies money and copyrights.)

Id hazard a guess that Hubbard hung out at the Anchor Bar. He
was a Lt I think, PT type boats based for much of his career
in the Navy in Bremerton.  His father may have been with US
Naval intelligence but thats not completely clear.

Hubbard was known as a group hypnotist at the time and later
in LS, and a fan of Aliester Crowley, Commander (Snake)
thompson both satanists according to their own claims. ..
(Charlie Mansons roots are in scientology)

In the 1991 I wrote an e book called "beyond the Black
Magicians'... Hubbard was long since dead (jan 86),.. but his
cult sent thugs after me for just mentioning his name in
conjunction with his associates and Jack Parsons the rocket
scientist. ( Of JPL fame)

Currently scientology has spawned a lot of guys that are
currently doing time at camp fed..  for espionage, fraud,
money laundering, blackmail, murder and stock fraud (into the
billions).. . not any of the really heavies however.

Sky Dayton, who founded EarthLink at age 20 is a
scientologist, whos prime fan is George Soros, Daytons
incubator spawned an investment bank USBX...  USBX has
recently joint ventured with the CIA's  Carlyle group.

The entire mess just keeps propagating like crabs at the
Honollulu yacht club.

Rewinding slightly...

Back to Elko Nev at age 5.  Downwind from the Hanford Nuc
Weapons lab where I was raised until I was 9... in that time
frame or maybe a little later, the gentle folk at hanford
released a few tons of plutonium oxide into the atmosphere
from 'Z' plant...thats 35 miles inside the secured perimeter
from the Richland Wa gate.

they wanted to see what would happen to the cancer rates in
down wind areas.  That included Elko.

its a long story.

so I will skip most of it

40 years later I ended up at Hanford's Z plant however (then
renamed the PFP, then the PSSF to confuse people, thats where
the plutonium that went into Nagasaki was made)... consulting
them on a range of issues but mostly hired to be a fall
guy...which I am not real good at, I am more the hoser type...
that was messy.

Their exhaust ducts and that exhaust stack are caked with
large chunks of PuO that if disturbed will fall off, land on
another piece and go critical.

(that situation was on 60 minutes, congressional hearings from
the late 60's and 70's....   I testified the last round in
1995.. the fall out from that was in 1998 approx.)

Accordingly one notices that a lot of history went through the
Anchor bar and some of it ended up terminally south.

... for instance the US Army's 'star fire'
program...involving Hubbards notions, voodoo dolls, pins and
razor blades.

    *****

On the OP's crack thang...what do you think?  We should
bulldoze and start over probably.   Or maybe blast, then
bulldoze?

Phil Scott

"Bob Morrison"  wrote in message

Being cracked so soon, could be an indication of someone souping up the mix.

I think the whole place should just be bulldozed and started
over.. perhaps after bulldozing the earth can be salted or
something.

there is no way in hell that one might wait until the slab
cures and seal the floor... you could get molecules around the
edges (gasp).

.....and ventilation of course doesn't work.
You just have to BREATHE the radon and DIE.

Phil Scott

The white stuff on the walls is from water.  When I first moved in it
rained pretty good and the water was flowing through the center blocks
like the niagra.  I had my builder out the next day and he came to the
conclusion that he forgot to FLASH the house.  They done it that day
and I haven't had a problem since.