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Robert Davies - 04 Jul 2005 05:22 GMT
I have yellow jackets in the ceiling joist cavity.  We recently added a
second floor and it took the builder months to finish the trim outside.  The
bees must have found a home in the time being.

Initially, not knowing the full extent, I mearly cauled the holes where they
were flying in and out of.  Now we have seen a few dead ones in the house.
It seems like they found an access through thebricks and the floor joists.

Any suggestions or comments ?
Phil Scott - 04 Jul 2005 06:22 GMT
> I have yellow jackets in the ceiling joist cavity.  We recently added a
> second floor and it took the builder months to finish the trim outside.  The
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> Any suggestions or comments ?

Drill a 1/4" hole into their area and use a tube to spray
insecticide in the hole, then put a cork in it.

Phil Scott
Lil' Dave - 04 Jul 2005 12:01 GMT
> I have yellow jackets in the ceiling joist cavity.  We recently added a
> second floor and it took the builder months to finish the trim outside.  The
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> Any suggestions or comments ?

Phil has a common sense suggestion on how to get rid of them.

Remember my grandpa used to rollup a newspaper, and burn the varmints nest
under the soffit area.  Whether there were yellowjackets present or not was
not a consideration.  He always did that.  Once afire, and the yellowjackets
fled if they were there, he knocked the nest off, and it fell to the ground.
Deposited nest in the trashcan.  Yes, he confessed he was stung sometimes.
Henry - 04 Jul 2005 15:15 GMT
> > I have yellow jackets in the ceiling joist cavity.  We recently added a
> > second floor and it took the builder months to finish the trim outside.
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> fled if they were there, he knocked the nest off, and it fell to the ground.
> Deposited nest in the trashcan.  Yes, he confessed he was stung sometimes.

<G> We used to poke them with a long cane fishing pole and then fight them
with a paddle. I showed that trick to my grandson awhile back. At 60 I'm not
quite as fast as I used to be.
Phil Scott - 05 Jul 2005 08:51 GMT
> "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message

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> > > I have yellow jackets in the ceiling joist cavity.  We recently added a
> > > second floor and it took the builder months to finish the trim outside.
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> with a paddle. I showed that trick to my grandson awhile back. At 60 I'm not
> quite as fast as I used to be.

Im 64...I was slowing down bad at 55... then I got a flat
tracker, and a suzuki SV650 motorcycle for the street.  In a
couple of years I was cooking again...now Im fast.

You could do it too.

Phil Scott
- - 05 Jul 2005 13:45 GMT
> > "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message
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> Phil Scott

I'm 61. I got a stationary bike, a manual treadmill and an ab lounger. I'm
half fast.

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clintonG - 05 Jul 2005 16:12 GMT
You guys are cracking me up.

I saw some neighbor with a green bottle attached to his hose. It looked like
he was spraying the gutters, fascia, and soffit. I'm going to ask him what
the stuff was. I keep a spray can of wasp killer around and hosing their
nests also disrupts them real good but that's only useful for ground level
response. Getting up to the high spots like the attic grille and the attic
window frames and the rake boards on the gables is not easy. On an older
house like ours the bottom edge of the rake boards on the gable ends curl
away from the brick veneer over the years making a great entry point for
wasps.

So, two years ago I tried using insulating spray foam marketed to retard or
prevent heat loss. The same foam stuff they market to spray around electric
junction boxes and other exterior entry points and so on. The spray cans
include a tubing attachment for the spray nozzle that allows the tube to be
inserted between the rake boards and the brick veneer of a home so the
insulation can be sprayed into small spaces.

I tested in the area of the front porch between the curled fascia boards and
the brick veneer. The spray insulation has remained  intact for two
Wisconsin winters now. I think I've found a good solution. I'm going to
carry through and do the rest of the gable ends to seal the whole exterior
this way. The only problem is foam control as the foam expands like crazy.
Use sparingly as the foam will expand and fill up any voids on  its own.
Once the foam dried I used a wire brush to clean the stuff that expanded out
of the space I inteded to seal.

My ground control will continue to be RAID wasp spray and a water hose with
a jet spray attachment.

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Phil Scott - 05 Jul 2005 17:43 GMT
> You guys are cracking me up.
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> nests also disrupts them real good but that's only useful for ground level
> response. Getting up to the high spots like the attic grille and the attic \

For the attic go to the grocery store and get a can of
insectide *fogger... set that baby in the attic in the morning
and pull the pin on it... then go to work all day. leave a few
downstairs windows open.

Phil Scott
> window frames and the rake boards on the gables is not easy. On an older
> house like ours the bottom edge of the rake boards on the gable ends curl
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Phil Scott - 05 Jul 2005 17:42 GMT
> > > "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in message

news:kG8ye.16002$pa3.5146@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > > > I have yellow jackets in the ceiling joist cavity.  We
> > recently added a
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> I'm 61. I got a stationary bike, a manual treadmill and an ab lounger. I'm
> half fast.

take up something that you like, and that has an element of
danger  to it, then arrange to start doing it again.   Your
body will respond by becoming up to the task...you will live a
lot better and longer.

There is an anti amyloid plaque drug being tested on humans
successfully now, that gets ride of these in the nervous
system.  I managed to do it my self by accident over the last
8 years and know first hand the effects... one of the test
subjects was on the tee vee a week ago... he reported the same
gains I have.    so we will all be living a lot longer and
stronger shortly. One must plan for that I think
...accordingly besides the bike racing Ive taken up chasing
women again.

You can do it too.  You have a good start with the tread mill
etc.    You might do some research on the issue of loss of
enzyme production with aging..it drops off fast..then
digestive trouble and ulcers set in and the body fades...
enzymes cure that..but theres all kinds you need to some
research and also go easy...the stuff I was using said 3 tabs
a day... Im down to one a week now.. 3 tabs a day would hurt
me bad.  none of my doctors knew about enzymes but its a huge
issue with aging.

Your corronaries are probably clogged too... its almost 100%
prevelant at our age.. if you want some clues on that say so I
will post them here.

Phil Scott

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Joe - 05 Jul 2005 23:02 GMT
This looks like a good time to tell everyone over 50 to go get a stress test
if they haven't had one in a while.
If you have a problem getting one scheduled just tell your doctor you are
having little chest pains.
Almost 3 years ago, while unloading some 12" block, I had a SMALL pain in my
chest.
I almost ignored it.
As an experiment, I worked a little faster and noticed the pain grew.
I called my DR. for an appointment.
After looking at me he scheduled me for a stress test.
The nurses hooked me up and I was only 3 minutes into the 9 minute test when
they shut it down and called a DR. to read the printout.
He looked at it and put me right into the hospital where I had 2 stents put
into one artery that supply blood to my heart.
The DR. said I would have had a heart attack any day because it was 90%
closed.
I am in pretty good shape, don't smoke and never thought I would be a
candidate for a heart attack.
That cholesterol will kill you dead.

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JerryD(upstateNY)

- - 06 Jul 2005 13:57 GMT
> This looks like a good time to tell everyone over 50 to go get a stress test
> if they haven't had one in a while.
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> candidate for a heart attack.
> That cholesterol will kill you dead.

I had a complete aorta replacement last March.

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> JerryD(upstateNY)
- - 06 Jul 2005 13:56 GMT
> > > "Henry "Ham" Hammond" <hamhammond@hotmail.com> wrote in
> > > message
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> take up something that you like, and that has an element of
> danger  to it, then arrange to start doing it again.

That's exactly what I did, thus the stationary bike for the danger, the
manual treadmill for something I like and the ab lounger to show that I'm
really working at it. Oh, and the Coors Light for weight control.

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Tom Cular - 22 Aug 2005 00:04 GMT
Be careful Phil, you might catch one that you can't keep up with. OTOH, it
sure beats stepping in front of a bus.
Tom

> > > "Henry "Ham" Hammond" <hamhammond@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Steven Gee - 26 Aug 2005 04:32 GMT
Hey, I started this thread, so here is an update.  I sprayed a can of Raid
hornet spray at their access point at dusk.  I used a small plastic hose to
direct the spray into the holes. ALso I cut a hole in the foyer ceiling and
put two bug foggers to cover the joist cavities.  It worked and I have not
seen any of the little yellow buggers.
> Be careful Phil, you might catch one that you can't keep up with. OTOH, it
> sure beats stepping in front of a bus.
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Joe - 26 Aug 2005 13:27 GMT
Glad to hear it was a success.
I had them in my outside wall and couldn't get to the hole very well to
spray so at night I fastened a vacuum cleaner hose near the opening.
The next day I turned on the cleaner.
Every hornet that came out was sucked up by the vacuum.
There were some that had left before I turned on the cleaner and when they
tried to get back to their nest, they were sucked up, also.

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JerryD(upstateNY)

Hey, I started this thread, so here is an update.  I sprayed a can of Raid
hornet spray at their access point at dusk.  I used a small plastic hose to
direct the spray into the holes. ALso I cut a hole in the foyer ceiling and
put two bug foggers to cover the joist cavities.  It worked and I have not
seen any of the little yellow buggers.

Doug - 08 Jul 2005 23:39 GMT
Something that worked for me was I took a shop vac,  put it (while running)
over the entrance to the wasp nest and sucked them all out. Took about an
hour. Then I took a can of wasp spray and sprayed it into the running shop
vac, waited for a few minutes, and opened it and dumped all 2 pounds of bugs
out in the trash, and caulked the whole shut.
No more problem.

Of course, it would matter where or how the entrance to their nest is laid
out. If on a wall, maybe duct tape the hose up there?

Regards,

Doug

>I have yellow jackets in the ceiling joist cavity.  We recently added a
> second floor and it took the builder months to finish the trim outside.
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>
> Any suggestions or comments ?
 
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