We live in a two-story home in the Arizona desert. Discovered this
morning to my dismay that a hive of bees have moved into a section of
soffit. Due to the fact that we live in the desert and have no lawn to
mow or manicure (I love that fact), I don't traverse the perimeter of
the home often and as result, they've had ample time to produce a comb.
Wife pointed out to me that there's honey dripping from the seam
between two sections of soffit.
My brother and I had a couple of hives as kids but I've long-since
forgotten everything I knew about beekeeping. I'd like to remove these
myself and would appreciate any pointers. I'll need to use the sawz-all
to free this small section of soffit. This would prove a much more
relaxing scenario for myself if said bees were in a very "relaxed"
state. :-)
I'd prefer not to poison or otherwise kill them. I've contacted local
beekeepers and they all want hundreds of dollars for this type of
removal er go my decision to do it myself.
Many thanks.
kzinNOSPAM99@yahoo.com - 21 May 2005 20:13 GMT
I'd research this more thoroughly but the traditional way has been to use
smoke to kind of knock them out, though they don't actually become
unconscious, and then do whatever you need to.
If you prefer to let them live, and that would be nice, I have no idea what
they will do when they come out of the effects of the smoke and find their
hive gone etc. I doubt they'll politely drop by to thank you.
good luck
PhantMan@hotpopcom.invalid - 21 May 2005 23:48 GMT
On Sat, 21 May 05, kzin wrote:
> I have no idea what
>they will do when they come out of the effects of the smoke
Unless you get the Queen out, they'll move right back in.
In fact, killing them won't work either. A month or two you'll find a
new hive with new bees, right where the old one was. I don't know how
they do that but believe me, they do. Over and over again.
I'd keep looking for a bee keeper. If paying an exorbitant sum is the
only way, pay it. A bee keeper will find the Queen, put her in his
hive, all the other bees will follow her in, and then he drives away.
Sorta like a pied piper. Doing that is the only way I know to prevent
them from returning.
I had an exterminator kill a hive in a soffit (guaranteed they
wouldn't come back) but after three more trips to exterminate
rejuvenated hives over the next six months at his expense, he finally
gave up and flat told me he wasn't coming back (and no, he didn't give
me my money back).
I finally got rid of them permanently by letting a bee keeper come get
them.
Good luck
Rick
beekeep - 21 May 2005 23:53 GMT
>We live in a two-story home in the Arizona desert. Discovered this
>morning to my dismay that a hive of bees have moved into a section of
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>Many thanks.
Pay the $250.00 and you will be ahead of the game. If you don't know
what you are doing you can make the situation far worse than it
already is. If someone messes with them before they call me the price
doubles! And it is far cheaper than going to the emergency room.
beekeep
Nehmo Sergheyev - 22 May 2005 03:41 GMT
- Nehmo -
Why not just leave them alone?
- Scott Dudley -
> We live in a two-story home in the Arizona desert. Discovered this
> morning to my dismay that a hive of bees have moved into a section of
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> My brother and I had a couple of hives as kids but I've long-since
> forgotten everything I knew about beekeeping.
- Nehmo -
You still must know more than I do. Can you tell if these are the
"killer bee" variety?
- Scott Dudley -
> I'd like to remove these
> myself and would appreciate any pointers. I'll need to use the sawz-all
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> beekeepers and they all want hundreds of dollars for this type of
> removal er go my decision to do it myself.
- Nehmo -
Bee Removal:
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2507.htm
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kzinNOSPAM99@yahoo.com - 22 May 2005 05:44 GMT
From the website referred to by Nehmo
WARNING: Honey bee removal from structures is not a job for a person who has
never worked around stinging insects or even a novice beekeeper. Sometimes,
this work is done while standing on a ladder with hundreds of angry bees
trying to protect their home. Bee removal can be unnerving to even the
experienced beekeeper and lead to accidents.
I would really suggest calling in a pro.
Duane Bozarth - 22 May 2005 14:13 GMT
> - Nehmo -
> Why not just leave them alone?
...
You ever seen the problems they make in a roof or wall cavity????
Nehmo Sergheyev - 22 May 2005 14:58 GMT
- Nehmo -
> > Why not just leave them alone?
- Duane Bozarth -
> You ever seen the problems they make in a roof or wall cavity????
- Nehmo -
When you say "problems", what are you describing?
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Chas Hurst - 22 May 2005 17:06 GMT
> - Nehmo -
> > > Why not just leave them alone?
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> - Nehmo -
> When you say "problems", what are you describing?
Obviously you haven't seen a honey bee hive in a house. The big problem is
they leak honey that can make an impossible stain and/or attract vermin.
Then there is the stinging thing.
Lil' Dave - 22 May 2005 15:47 GMT
Agreed. The implication is that the beehive is two stories in the air.
Just be careful when you hose down the honey dripping from the overhang if
you have the water pressure to do so.
> - Nehmo -
> Why not just leave them alone?
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Dick Adams - 23 May 2005 04:42 GMT
> We live in a two-story home in the Arizona desert. Discovered this
> morning to my dismay that a hive of bees have moved into a section of
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> Wife pointed out to me that there's honey dripping from the seam
> between two sections of soffit.
Let's start with the fact that you are in Arizona. What is the
probability that you have "killer bees"? When you climb up there,
will you know how to tell they are "killer bees"?
> My brother and I had a couple of hives as kids but I've long-since
> forgotten everything I knew about beekeeping. I'd like to remove these
> myself and would appreciate any pointers. I'll need to use the sawz-all
> to free this small section of soffit. This would prove a much more
> relaxing scenario for myself if said bees were in a very "relaxed"
> state. :-)
I had a student whose husband was a roofer and had 12 hives. He found
a hive inside a ventilation shaft and went to remove the bees himself.
He had done it before. Something went wrong; the bees got angry; he
fell and cracked three vertebrae.
> I'd prefer not to poison or otherwise kill them. I've contacted
> local beekeepers and they all want hundreds of dollars for this
> type of removal er go my decision to do it myself.
Pay the beekeepers and make sure they have insurance in case they
fall. Check your homeowners insurance and see if the removal is
covered. If you want to do it yourself, just one question:
Do You Feel Lucky?
Dick
CWatters - 23 May 2005 11:27 GMT
> Wife pointed out to me that there's honey dripping from the seam
> between two sections of soffit.
Perhaps someone's lost a swarm?
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Beekeeping/problem.htm
Maverick - 23 May 2005 16:21 GMT
> > Wife pointed out to me that there's honey dripping from the seam
> > between two sections of soffit.
>
> Perhaps someone's lost a swarm?
>
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Beekeeping/problem.htm
Down here in South Texas we have so many killer bees, 6 people killed last
year, that now we just assume any bee is a killer bee. So, here is what most
of us do. If the hive is outside in a tree we get one of those spray bottles
that you attach to the end of a hose and fill it up with dish washing soap
and just before sundown, go out and give them a good soaking. The next
morning they will just about all be dead. If they are in a wall we go to
WalMart and get something like "Mosquito B Gone" (read the label and make
sure it says "toxic to bees, do not spray on flowers and crops that attract
bees". Put that on the end of the water hose and find a crack in the wall or
maybe where the bees go in. Again, just before sundown spray about half of
that bottle into the crack/s. Be very careful because this will make the
bees a bit unhappy with you, so you must have a quick exit route to a place
of safety.
Another thing we do if we know where they are going in at is to get a
tablespoon full of 80% Sevin dust and throw up into the entrance point. The
workers carry that to the queen and in about 3 days, the whole bunch are
dead or gone.
Everything, though, is done after the sun has gone down but still having
enough light to see what you are doing. The darker, the better.
There is no way an average citizen (I hate that term) can tell a killer bee
from a friendly bee. So, the first line of defense is, be extremely careful.
Ren@tionalisebritishtele.com - 31 May 2005 21:15 GMT
> There is no way an average citizen (I hate that term) can tell a killer
> bee
> from a friendly bee.
Be glad you're a citzen, even if you're an average one. In the UK we are
subjects of Her Majesty the Queen.
Steve
Eunoia Eigensinn - 28 May 2005 21:54 GMT
Scott;
Just wondering if you live in a part of AZ that gets cold-ish winters ?
If "yes" then maybe you just wait till late Fall when the honey is at a
max and the bees are dopey before you move the thing. Or wait a bit
longer till freezing weather.
But if you can't wait, if you put on a hood, gloves and close off your
sleeves and pant legs and dope them up with some smoke, what's the
worst that can happen ?
As a back-up measure, you could take a long shopvac hose (connected to
a shop vac of course**) up with you to suck up any pissed-off bees that
you think are a threat.
** I once had a B.Math/Computer Science grad helping me sheathe a roof
in winter. He hadn't developed his sea legs yet and took a safety line
up with him and hung on to it for dear life.
Unfortunately he had forgotten to tie off the other end and yup, in his
nervousness he managed to slide off of the slightly frosty/snowy roof,
falling two tall storeys.
Fortunately, he landed on deep snow at the bottom and suffered no
damage.
> We live in a two-story home in the Arizona desert. Discovered this
> morning to my dismay that a hive of bees have moved into a section of
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> Many thanks.
Phil Scott - 27 Jun 2005 16:27 GMT
> We live in a two-story home in the Arizona desert. Discovered this
> morning to my dismay that a hive of bees have moved into a section of
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>
> Many thanks.
Put a pail under the drip and be thankful the daily gift. or
call a beekeepers supply, search it on google, buy some of
their smoke producing pellets and aparatus and smoke the bee's
out for a few days ..long enough for them to give up on the
homestead.