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Gary Brown - 09 Jan 2005 06:52 GMT
Hi,

We have a number of pots and pans that have accumulated a layer of
"varnish" and black coating over the years.  So far only scrubbing with
a mild abrasive (soft scrub or baking soda) or a worn Scotch-Brite has
made a dent.

Is there a better way?

These include aluminum, anodised aluminum, steel, enamel, teflon coated,
and Corningware.

Thanks,
Gary
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. - 09 Jan 2005 14:01 GMT
Hi Gary

Bar Keepers Friend is the BEST non-scratching cleanser I have ever
found.  It's not as strong as it used to be years ago, but still
better than anything else, regarding cleansers.

On rare occassion, I will soak steel and/or iron pots, pans, baking
sheets, etc. in a 33% lye solution.  It's a pre-mixed and bottled
solution of Lewis Red Devil Lye and water.  Gets VERY HOT when you mix
it, so the plastic bottles must be immediately cooled in a tub of
water after adding water to the lye.

At one time I used to have a sandblasting cabinet, this made quick
work of cleaning the outsides of iron cookware, hi hi.....

TTUL
Gary
Choreboy - 10 Jan 2005 00:33 GMT
> On rare occassion, I will soak steel and/or iron pots, pans, baking
> sheets, etc. in a 33% lye solution.  It's a pre-mixed and bottled
> solution of Lewis Red Devil Lye and water.  Gets VERY HOT when you mix
> it, so the plastic bottles must be immediately cooled in a tub of
> water after adding water to the lye.

Adding water to lye can cause loss of eyesight from violent splashing of
the caustic substance.  Instead, you should add the lye slowly to the water.

Of the materials listed, would lye be appropriate on anything but the Corningware?

Sincerely,
Choreboy

Confidential to Mr. Deutschmann: [Sorry for emailing you.  It's my goofy newsreader.]
Phisherman - 10 Jan 2005 13:50 GMT
>> On rare occassion, I will soak steel and/or iron pots, pans, baking
>> sheets, etc. in a 33% lye solution.  It's a pre-mixed and bottled
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>
>Confidential to Mr. Deutschmann: [Sorry for emailing you.  It's my goofy newsreader.]

I don't understand the film on Corningware.  I have the "Just White"
Corningware that I've been using for 30 years and it still looks like
new.   I don't use anything abrasive, just dishwashing soap.
Sometimes baking will leave stuck-on dried food, but nothing an
overnight soak won't remove.
Mrs Bonk - 10 Jan 2005 20:07 GMT
> >> On rare occassion, I will soak steel and/or iron pots, pans, baking
> >> sheets, etc. in a 33% lye solution.  It's a pre-mixed and bottled
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> Sometimes baking will leave stuck-on dried food, but nothing an
> overnight soak won't remove.

Hello someone! Can anyone help me? I have a question.

Is Corningware the same thing as Pyrex ?
Marcia Pease - 11 Jan 2005 00:22 GMT
> "Phisherman" <nobody@noone.com> wrote in message
> >
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>
> Is Corningware the same thing as Pyrex ?

Thank you Phisherman.  Gary Deutschmann is obviously a terrorist, trying
to convince Americans to add water to lye.  What made you suspect that
Mrs. Bonk was his confederate?  Anyhow, you have exposed her.  If she
weren't hiding out in a cave in Pakistan, she would know CorningWare is
a porcelain-glass composite.

Terrorists hate us because our homes are so clean.  That's why AHC is a
target.
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Until next time,
Marcey

Dawn - 11 Jan 2005 02:33 GMT
>> "Phisherman" <nobody@noone.com> wrote in message
>> >
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>weren't hiding out in a cave in Pakistan, she would know CorningWare? is
>a porcelain-glass composite.

Lock me up. I've never heard of CorningWare either!
Mrs Bonk - 11 Jan 2005 14:13 GMT
> >> "Phisherman" <nobody@noone.com> wrote in message
> >> >
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>
> Lock me up. I've never heard of CorningWare either!

Thank You Dawn. I imagine it's one of those things peculiar to America or
possibly we call it something else. I have to go shopping now, I will ask in
the ironmongers if they have anything similar so I can compare. I have the
white pyrex, you know the sort, sometimes with a blue flower or squiggle and
clear lid. I suspect it's similar to that. Anyhow I'll let you know if I do
see anything.
Dawn - 12 Jan 2005 00:49 GMT
>> >> "Phisherman" <nobody@noone.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>clear lid. I suspect it's similar to that. Anyhow I'll let you know if I do
>see anything.

I found this picture
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/kitchen-accessories/corningware-dish.asp
and the text would appear to confirm that it's not been about here
long, if at all.
Mrs Bonk - 11 Jan 2005 14:04 GMT
> > "Phisherman" <nobody@noone.com> wrote in message
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> weren't hiding out in a cave in Pakistan, she would know CorningWare is
> a porcelain-glass composite.

How DARE you cast aspersions on my dear friend Gary AND also on ME!
I will be reporting you to your abuse department forthwith you nasty woman.
I hope they make you wash your mouth out with lye for the lie you told about
us!
Obviously sensible posters here will not believe a word of your silly story,
they all know Gary is an upstanding citizen and great asset to both his
country and to AHC.  Whereas, before your message  I was a normal
houseperson going about my every day business I now find myself looking from
behind curtains  in case MI5 and the special branch are after me. ( noticed
the windows were rather dirty too)
God Save The Queen!
Choreboy - 11 Jan 2005 17:07 GMT
> > Thank you Phisherman.  Gary Deutschmann is obviously a terrorist, trying
> > to convince Americans to add water to lye.  What made you suspect that
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I hope they make you wash your mouth out with lye for the lie you told about
> us!

You and Gary urge us to do similar things.  Where do your loyalties lye?

> Obviously sensible posters here will not believe a word of your silly story,
> they all know Gary is an upstanding citizen and great asset to both his
> country and to AHC.  

Give us a hint.  Is his country one of the ones our president included
in the Axis of Evil?  Did you know "Gary" means "Spearchucker"?  I
imagine a terrorist has to *earn* a nickname like that.  I wonder what's
in those robot machines he wants us to bring into our homes.

> Whereas, before your message  I was a normal
> houseperson going about my every day business I now find myself looking from
> behind curtains  in case MI5 and the special branch are after me. ( noticed
> the windows were rather dirty too)

Did the terrorists use your jealousy to solicit you?

> God Save The Queen!

If you say that when you turn yourself in, they'll go easier on you.
Offer to help them catch "Spearchucker".

Sincerely,
Choreboy
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. - 10 Jan 2005 16:25 GMT
Hi Choreboy

Although I do agree with you regarding the normal mixing of Lye and
water.

For many years my company packaged a liquid solution of Lye and found
that adding the Lye crystals to the bottles first, then adding about
2/3 of the water, capping and cooling, then topping off until full,
was the safest method in this particular case.

Why?  Adding Lye to partially prefilled bottles of water could cause
splashing and water getting into the vats of lye crystal.

Doing it the opposite way kept the lye in one room, the water in the
next room, etc.  People handling the Lye were NOT around water or
moisture, so Lye could not stick to wet hands or damp clothing, etc.

After reversing the operation, Lye first, Water second, accidents and
spills became non-existant in the workplace.  Not one employee ever
had a Lye burn doing it backwards!

So, sometimes the proper way of doing something is not necessarily
safest way.  Then comes OSHA, but that's another 80 page story!

TTUL
Gary
ilaboo - 27 Jan 2005 22:53 GMT
use spray oven cleaner but not on the aluminium items

heat the items under hot water

leave on for 10 minutes

carefull of your eyes and do not leave near children

hth
peter
Victoria Hirt - 18 Feb 2005 20:38 GMT
>use spray oven cleaner but not on the aluminium items
>
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>
>carefull of your eyes and do not leave near children

But cheaper, healthier, and easier yet is fill with hot water, add
about a teaspoon of CHEAP hair conditioner, and let it set for a few
minutes.  Does it every time.
teleflora - 13 Jan 2005 01:31 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Is there a better way?

Hey, I just got finished cleaning the "varnish" off the bottom of my
electric skillet.  Proctor & Gamble makes a product called Dawn Power
Dissolve.  You can find it with the dishwashing soap.  You spray it on and
let it sit.  That stuff comes right off.  I used it in the corners of my
aluminum baking sheets.  You know how you get that black stuff you can't
scrape out?

This stuff kind of feels like oven cleaner.  It's thick.  But it really does
work. I've used it on everything.

Cindy
Phisherman - 13 Jan 2005 15:27 GMT
>> Hi,
>>
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>
>Cindy

Many oven cleaners contain sodium hydroxide, or lye, which should not
be used on aluminum products.  Sodium hydroxide is a strong alkaline
and can dissolve your skin or damage eyes.  Anyone know the active
ingredient to Dawn Power Dissolve?
teleflora - 13 Jan 2005 16:04 GMT
> Many oven cleaners contain sodium hydroxide, or lye, which should not
> be used on aluminum products.  Sodium hydroxide is a strong alkaline
> and can dissolve your skin or damage eyes.  Anyone know the active
> ingredient to Dawn Power Dissolve?

No, but I know it didn't damage my aluminum pans.

Cindy
Dawn - 14 Jan 2005 02:33 GMT
>>> Hi,
>>>
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>and can dissolve your skin or damage eyes.  Anyone know the active
>ingredient to Dawn Power Dissolve?

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=16003343
Phisherman - 16 Jan 2005 14:34 GMT
Thanks Dawn.  Great link!!!

>>>> Hi,
>>>>
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>
>http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=16003343
 
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