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Costco vs. Sam's paper towels.

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TOM KAN PA - 20 Dec 2004 17:20 GMT
Their house brand. I go to Sam's and buy Bountys. Costco is too far from home.
My sister brought me a couple Costco double rolls. Not bad. And my neighbor
gave me a roll of Sam's regular. They are about $17 for a case of 30.
Both the Sam's and the Costco's are pleated. And they have the same pattern.
Can I take this mean that they are made by the same paper mill and are
basically the same towel??
Vox Humana - 20 Dec 2004 17:40 GMT
> Their house brand. I go to Sam's and buy Bountys. Costco is too far from home.
> My sister brought me a couple Costco double rolls. Not bad. And my neighbor
> gave me a roll of Sam's regular. They are about $17 for a case of 30.
> Both the Sam's and the Costco's are pleated. And they have the same pattern.
> Can I take this mean that they are made by the same paper mill and are
> basically the same towel??

No.  Costco's house brand of paper towel is hands-down better than Sam's. In
my opinion they aren't even close to being equal.
TOM KAN PA - 20 Dec 2004 17:47 GMT
I just talked to my neighbor and he told me the roll he gave me WASN'T Sam's
house brand.
They come 30 rolls in a cardboard box and are labeled as commercial paper
towels for restaurants, food stores, etc. The brand is POM. So perhaps my
question should be rephrased. Is the Costco and the POM the same towel.
Wayne Boatwright - 21 Dec 2004 00:40 GMT
> Their house brand. I go to Sam's and buy Bountys. Costco is too far from
> home. My sister brought me a couple Costco double rolls. Not bad. And my
> neighbor gave me a roll of Sam's regular. They are about $17 for a case
> of 30. Both the Sam's and the Costco's are pleated. And they have the
> same pattern. Can I take this mean that they are made by the same paper
> mill and are basically the same towel??

Dunno.  I've never had Sam's or POM paper towels, but the ones from Costco
are superior to any brands carried in the stupidmarkets.

Sometimes I make a trip there just for the paper towels and their dishwasher
detergent.

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me@privacy.net - 21 Dec 2004 15:24 GMT
>but the ones from Costco
>are superior to any brands carried in the stupidmarkets.

I agree abt Costcos paper towels

My only complaint abt them is they are too big
sometimes. Occasionally I just want a small paper towel
to wipe up a spill... and it seems wasteful to use the
Costco towels for that.

What you think?
Wayne Boatwright - 22 Dec 2004 06:39 GMT
>>but the ones from Costco
>>are superior to any brands carried in the stupidmarkets.
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>
> What you think?

Yes, I agree, they are large.  Most of the time they're a good size for me.  
I must be messier. :-)  I see your point, though.

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Vox Humana - 21 Dec 2004 01:59 GMT
> Their house brand. I go to Sam's and buy Bountys. Costco is too far from home.

I thought you lived near the Robinson Town Center.
TOM KAN PA - 21 Dec 2004 12:56 GMT
<< I thought you lived near the Robinson Town Center. >>

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Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. - 21 Dec 2004 13:12 GMT
When Sams first opened they carried (in our area) Fort Howard brand
paper products.  Both the Paper Towels and TP were GREAT and much
cheaper than our local supplier.

Then they switched to Marathon Brand which was totally unsuitable.
Marathon Paper Towels scratched almost everything we used them on, and
the TP, besides being rough, caused more waste line clogs than you can
shake a stick at.

Before going to POM Brand, they went through another Fort Something
brand that was only slightly better than Marathon.
Although we buy POM TP, we now only buy the double scored Bounty,
tearable in 1/2 sheets.  It's a little higher, but they go a long ways
further in usage and absorbency.

I don't know if Pace Stores were national or not, but when they opened
in St. Louis, their higher quality and lower prices almost ran Sam's
out of town.  Sam's did the only thing they could and bought them all
out and turned them into Sam's stores.
We had a Costco open quite a ways from us, I visited it twice and was
not impressed at all with their merchandise.  Their prices were lower,
but not enough to make up for the exhorbitant sales taxes where they
opened.  So the bottom line was, they were higher priced.

What irks me the most about Sam's is that their sister store WalMart
carries many of the same things, and often for a lower price too, on
the things we buy most often.  And you don't have to pay a membership
fee to shop at WalMart.  WalMart don't know the meaning of ALWAYS that
they plaster on everything.  One day it's one price, the next it's a
whole dollar higher and stays that way for a month.  Then it drops
again for a day or two then jumps back up again.  They need to take
that ALWAYS sign off the product on the days it's lower in price,
because it is NOT ALWAYS that price.

TTUL
Gary
Vox Humana - 21 Dec 2004 14:19 GMT
> I don't know if Pace Stores were national or not, but when they opened
> in St. Louis, their higher quality and lower prices almost ran Sam's
> out of town.

Pace was a division of K-Mart
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. - 22 Dec 2004 22:52 GMT
"Vox Humana" <vhumana@hotmail.com> verbositized:

>Pace was a division of K-Mart

That's Right!  I forgot.

I wish they would have kept them open though and not cow toed to Sam's
offers and accepted them.

Although the Pace store was much further away than Sam's from where I
lived, they carried most of my favorite brands of the things I used
most often, and ALWAYS much less than at Sam's.  They also had
numerous things neither Sam's or WalMart has never offered for sale.

I bought two mini-fridges (dorm fridges), one from Pace, one from
Sam's, when my kids went off to college.
The one from Sam's had a cooling grate on the back, hinges that stuck
out and a handle on the surface.
The one from Pace was a solid metal back, no protrusions anywhere, the
handle was indented in the door Metal not plastic and the hinges are
flush with door.
Sam's Price $119.95, Pace Price $99.95 (20 bucks cheaper)
The Sam's fridge lasted only 2 years, the door handle didn't make it 6
months.  It was some unknown name like Crown or something like that.
The Pace fridge I'm still using by my desk in the office for soda,
it's at least 7 years old now if not older.  It's an Emerson!
They were both the same size inside!

As an aside, while speaking of refrigerators, I purchased a side by
side, with ice maker and ice crusher, water and ice from the door,
etc. made by Westinghouse with the name Roper on the front.  I
purchased mine from The Home Depot.
My wifes sister liked it so well she got what she thought was an
identical refrigerator from Sam's for around 8 bucks cheaper.  On the
outside they look identical, both made by Westinghouse, same type
handles, same faceplates by the ice/water dispensers, same water
filter and filter cover.  Inside they look the same on non-removable
parts, such as temperature controls and housings, covers, inside
materials and shapes, etc.

But there is a big difference in the removable parts, namely the
shelving and door shelves.
In mine the fridge shelves are tempered glass with a plastic frame and
two sets of drawers at the bottom.
Hers, the shelves are plastic coated wire with only one drawer at the
bottom.
On the door, our bins are identical in size and shape, but I have 1
extra of the medium sized bin.  I have 1 large at the bottom, 3 medium
up the middle, 1 small at the top, with glass over the two top built
in bins.  She has 1 large at the bottom, only 2 medium up the middle,
1 small at the top, with smoked plastic over the two top built in
bins.

We checked on the price of a new medium sized bin.  It was $36.00!
We checked the price of replacement glass and coated wire shelves.
$89.00 for wire, $129.00 each for the tempered glass.
Replacement glass doors for the top bins were 28 bucks each, plastic
21 bucks each.

After comparing our two fridges, and the difference between the prices
of the replacement parts, she figures Sam's took her for well over 200
bucks.

All of the rest of the two fridges was identical, right down to the
compressor and rollers under the bottom.  In other words, the only
things different were the removable components inside.

TTUL
Gary
Ralph Mowery - 23 Dec 2004 00:32 GMT
> As an aside, while speaking of refrigerators, I purchased a side by
> side, with ice maker and ice crusher, water and ice from the door,
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> 1 small at the top, with smoked plastic over the two top built in
> bins.

I thought Whirlpool made the Roper brand.

Found out from an "honest" Sears salesman that many modles  of one item will
be almost the same except the last letter or two of a modle number.  That is
so the stores will not have to "price match" anothe stores item.  That could
also be the differance in prices.
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. - 23 Dec 2004 16:39 GMT
Hi Ralph

Your are Correct!  It is Whirlpool NOT Westinghouse.

As far as model numbers, I think you will find that all major chain
stores have different model numbers on the same items, just for the
very reason you indicated.  Sometimes something is visibly different,
sometimes not.

Many long years ago, in 1968-70 when JC Penneys was carrying major
appliances, I had an uncle who had worked for GE most of his life.  I
told him I would like to buy a washer and dryer but wanted a good pair
that won't break my budget.  He did some checking and got back to me
in a few days.  He told me to go to JC Penneys and buy a particular
Penncrest model series matching washer and dryer.  Said it was the GE
such and such model but with special improvements done just for JC
Penneys, meaning it was better quality than their own branded like
model.  The GE model had a standard clutch, the Penncrest model had a
special heavy duty three stage clutch mechanism.  When one stage
finally wore out, all that one needed to do was move the brake up to
the next stage and they had a new clutch.  That was only one of the 4
or 5 improvements found on the Penncrest that was not found on GE's
own machines.  The washer lasted about 18 years, the dryer almost 30
years, with minimal repairs.  The last 15 years or so, it was used as
a backup dryer.  So I almost always had one washer and two dryers
while the kids were growing up.

I'm not sure, but I think there are only like 3 companies left that
actually make refrigerators, regardless of who's name is on them.  I
don't doubt that that applies to several other major appliances also.

TTUL
Gary
 
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