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Top Spin - 18 Dec 2004 14:54 GMT
Is the DustBuster the best of the little portable, cordless, hand-held
vacuums or is there something better?

I'm looking for light cleanup for spills and such around the house.

Thanks

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Phisherman - 18 Dec 2004 16:03 GMT
>Is the DustBuster the best of the little portable, cordless, hand-held
>vacuums or is there something better?
>
>I'm looking for light cleanup for spills and such around the house.
>
>Thanks

You'll be far ahead with a good natural bristle whisk broom, dustpan,
and a roll of Bounty paper towels.
Suzie-Q - 18 Dec 2004 20:00 GMT
-> Is the DustBuster the best of the little portable, cordless, hand-held
-> vacuums or is there something better?
->
-> I'm looking for light cleanup for spills and such around the house.

I've never been happy with the DustBuster, in spite of
having owned a couple of them. They both got weaker over
time and became virtually useless. And I did change the
little filter/bag several times, so that wasn't it.

I might try a small vac like that again, but I'd probably
go for a better brand.

I do have a little dirt devil, but it has a cord. It is a
very long cord, and that's a plus. I'm happy with its
performance, especially since it has a rotating brush
that's excellent for vacuuming couches and cat trees.
It also has an attached hose with one of those long,
thin attachements for vacuuming cracks and crevices.
It will hold more dust and dirt than a DustBuster, too,
but you have to buy little bags. I suppose you could
reuse the bags if you wanted to.

The dustpan and wisk broom are also a good idea!
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Top Spin - 18 Dec 2004 20:16 GMT
>-> Is the DustBuster the best of the little portable, cordless, hand-held
>-> vacuums or is there something better?
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>time and became virtually useless. And I did change the
>little filter/bag several times, so that wasn't it.

That's the problem exactly. After a couple of years, the battery just
doesn't hold a charge very well. The batteries and NiCad on my model,
but it doesn't look like they are meant to be replaced.

>I might try a small vac like that again, but I'd probably
>go for a better brand.

What is a better brand?

>I do have a little dirt devil, but it has a cord. It is a
>very long cord, and that's a plus. I'm happy with its
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>but you have to buy little bags. I suppose you could
>reuse the bags if you wanted to.

I'll check those out, too.

>The dustpan and wisk broom are also a good idea!

I have a dustpan. It's good for some things, but the cordless vacs
have their place.

Thanks

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soinie - 18 Dec 2004 21:40 GMT
>>-> Is the DustBuster the best of the little portable, cordless, hand-held
>>-> vacuums or is there something better?
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>
>Thanks
I like the Shark.
Suzie-Q - 19 Dec 2004 20:10 GMT
-> On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:00:59 GMT, Suzie-Q <sme617x@earthlink.net>
-> wrote:
->
-> >I might try a small vac like that again, but I'd probably
-> >go for a better brand.
->
-> What is a better brand?

Oreck?
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Vox Humana - 18 Dec 2004 23:30 GMT
> Is the DustBuster the best of the little portable, cordless, hand-held
> vacuums or is there something better?
>
> I'm looking for light cleanup for spills and such around the house.

Worthless crap, in my opinion.
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. - 19 Dec 2004 13:37 GMT
Hi TS

Every small cordless hand vac I have owned allowed dust to bypass the
bag and blow out of the cracks around the housing!

I have had two corded hand vacs that were slightly better, but not by
much.  

My newest one (sorry can't remember the name) is Red in color with a
large bag that a filter bag fits into.  It has a rotating brush on the
front and the hose can be disconnected from the brush section and used
with the onboard mounted crevice tool.  The power cord is very long!
It does NOT have a blower feature on this model, so I rarely if ever
use it.
I'm guessing, but I think it's a Dirt Devil?  I'm in my office and
it's down at the house.

When we open our Christmas presents, there is a Roomba Deluxe under
the tree, just waiting to be turned loose, hi hi.....

TTUL
Gary
Suzie-Q - 19 Dec 2004 20:13 GMT
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-> When we open our Christmas presents, there is a Roomba Deluxe under
-> the tree, just waiting to be turned loose, hi hi.....

I'd love to have a Roomba, but with 5 dogs and 5 cats it would
be going all the time!!! And it would have to have a much larger
"bag" (or whatever holds the dirt).

I'm waiting for a Roomba-type vac that transports (like in Star
Trek) the dirt to a landfill!!
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Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. - 20 Dec 2004 16:25 GMT
Hi Sue

When I first saw them I didn't think much of them either, since they
are just sweepers.
My Aunt bought one and loved it so much she bought a second one for
another part of the house.  (They cannot cross threshholds!)  She has
two long haired pooches and it nabs their hair and the leaves they
drag in.

The one I bought and wrapped for under the Christmas tree, while Debi
was at work I charged it up so she could use it.  I couldn't resist
turning it loose in den to see how it did.  We have 4 dogs, two went
and hid, one chased it, the other just barked her fool head off at it.
The one that chased it, when it turned around and came toward her,
took to the couch and just sat up there watching it for awhile.

Needless to say, we don't move out the couch very often for cleaning.
This little thing goes right under the couch and makes a path along
the baseboards then turns and comes back until it hits a leg, goes
around it and ends up covering every spot under the couch at least
twice.  It got full and ran back to it's charging stand to wait to be
emptied.  It got everything from a chewed up pencil to BBs a couple of
marbles from a game, lots of dust bunnies and lots of dog hair.

Well, it charged back up and was neatly packed away, nicely gift
wrapped and is just waiting to be turned loose again!

Based on only about 15 minutes of watching this little critter, I
think it will be a welcome addition to our home.

The only thing I fear is WHAT IF, it finds a hidden gift from a pooch
before we do, hi hi.....

TTUL
Gary
Suzie-Q - 20 Dec 2004 20:35 GMT
-> Hi Sue
->
-> When I first saw them I didn't think much of them either, since they
-> are just sweepers.
-> My Aunt bought one and loved it so much she bought a second one for
-> another part of the house.  (They cannot cross threshholds!)  She has
-> two long haired pooches and it nabs their hair and the leaves they
-> drag in.
->
-> The one I bought and wrapped for under the Christmas tree, while Debi
-> was at work I charged it up so she could use it.  I couldn't resist
-> turning it loose in den to see how it did.  We have 4 dogs, two went
-> and hid, one chased it, the other just barked her fool head off at it.
-> The one that chased it, when it turned around and came toward her,
-> took to the couch and just sat up there watching it for awhile.
->
-> Needless to say, we don't move out the couch very often for cleaning.
-> This little thing goes right under the couch and makes a path along
-> the baseboards then turns and comes back until it hits a leg, goes
-> around it and ends up covering every spot under the couch at least
-> twice.  It got full and ran back to it's charging stand to wait to be
-> emptied.  It got everything from a chewed up pencil to BBs a couple of
-> marbles from a game, lots of dust bunnies and lots of dog hair.
->
-> Well, it charged back up and was neatly packed away, nicely gift
-> wrapped and is just waiting to be turned loose again!
->
-> Based on only about 15 minutes of watching this little critter, I
-> think it will be a welcome addition to our home.
->
-> The only thing I fear is WHAT IF, it finds a hidden gift from a pooch
-> before we do, hi hi.....
->
-> TTUL
-> Gary

Well, once I get a job, maybe I'll get one!

Please let me know what does happen when it finally finds
that hidden gift!
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Starsha - 22 Dec 2004 06:14 GMT
> When I first saw them I didn't think much of them either, since they
> are just sweepers.
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> turning it loose in den to see how it did.  We have 4 dogs, two went
> and hid, one chased it, the other just barked her fool head off at it.

Thanks for the report, Gary.  I've been considering one, too, but wondered
how it would do w/ dog hair, and, how my dog would do with it.

Which model did you get?  It fit under the sofa, eh?  Hmmm.  Nice!  Would
you mind posting an update in a month or so?  I'd be interested in reading
your second impression.

Many thanks,
S
Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. - 22 Dec 2004 22:24 GMT
Hi S

I can give you a pretty good rundown on them already based on folks I
know who already have them, that have dogs and dogs and birds.  What
they liked and didn't like about them.

The two my aunt owns are the 3100R (known also as the Pro Elite) and
Discovery (not Discovery SE).
She loves the older 3100R much better than the newer Discovery as for
as how quickly it cleans a room.
Both of these are the upper end priced Roomba's.
The 3100R's dirt bin is small, the Discovery's is twice the size.
3100R The brushes need a screwdriver to remove.  Discovery they pop
out for easier cleaning.
The reason she likes the 3100R better, despite it's more work for her,
is that the Discovery model seems, as she put it, simple minded,
compared to 3100R.  It also gets lost and only finds its way back to
the charging stand maybe every other time if she's lucky.
The remote is basically to play with it like a toy.  She only used the
remote the first day and it has sat in a drawer ever since.

She recommended to me that I should clean the bin after each use,
clean the brushes (she uses a seam ripper to get the hair out) at
least once every 5 uses or it gets too hard to clean the brushes after
that.

Keep telephone and extension cords away from it, pick up shoes with
shoelaces, etc.

The ones with buttons to select spot clean and max clean only cause it
to stay in a tighter circle.  Both just run in circles until they hit
something, then they go off a few feet and start going in circles
again.  So it's best to keep them in one room at a time.

Here is list of the Roomba's made, can't gurantee this list is real
accurate though.

Original Roomba (probably model 2001R) Silver - Loud when running,
runs 1 Hr, cost $199.95.
Roomba (model 3000R) Silver - Loud when running, runs 1-1/2 Hrs, cost
$195.00.
Roomba Pro (model unknown) Slate Blue, Loud when running, new feature
'spot cleaning mode', known defect 'problem with charger', runs 1-1/2
Hrs, cost $229.99.
Roomba Pre Elite (model 3100R) Merlin Red (Maroon), Only 3/4 as Loud
when running, new features 'Max cleaning mode', 'Remote control', runs
1-1/2 Hrs, known defect 'problem with charger', cost $249.99.
Roomba Discovery (model unknown) Silver, 1/2 as Loud when running, new
feature 'docking station', Twice as powerful as Original Roomba,
Remote control, larger dust bin, runs 2 Hrs., known defect 'gets lost'
and/or 'runs in circles', cost $249.95.
Roomba Discovery SE, (model unkown) Black, all features of Discovery
above, new feature upgraded CPU, $269.95.
Roomba Red (model unknown) Red, all features of Discovery SE above
EXCEPT Remote and Docking station, new features 'active dirt response
system,' (automatic replaces Spot and Max buttons), larger dirt
catcher, upgraded CPU, runs 2 HRS, cost only $149.95

Note, both the Roomba Pro and Pro Elite have had major charging
problems, the FIX for this problem did not work.

Although my original plan was to buy the Discovery SE model, their
most expensive, after speaking with other owners of this and other
models and finding out it's shortfalls I decided on the purchasing the
newest edition, the Roomba Red for a hundred bucks less.

About the Roomba Red: Like all previous models, you place it at it's
starting point, then return it to the charger when it's finished.
You don't have to guess at room sizes or select Spot or Max modes.
Why?  Because it has a new sensor that senses extra dirt and/or areas
of heavy debris and switches to Spot mode automatically, else it's
always in Max clean mode.
It has the new CPU and the larger dirt catcher.
For all intensive purposes, it's the Descovery SE without a Remote
Control that no one uses anyhow, nor a charging base it only finds
every other try.

Problems with all Roomba's is the insides get coated with dust, which
covers the optical sensors after awhile.  Cleaning the inside is best
done with a crevace tool on a regular vacuum.
Although the Roomba handles pet hair with ease, some of this hair will
wrap around the brush ends.  My aunt says a seam ripper is the best
thing to get it out before it becomes too much and you have to remove
the brushes.

Someone asked about the height of the Roomba?
The 3100R is about 2-1/2 inches, all the newer ones are only 2 inches.
If there is a spot on that china hutch it can get under, it will find
it.  After cleaning underneath, if it cannot find it's way out right
away, it will shut off the brushes to save energy and keep looking.

A new feature of the Roomba Red, that I don't know if it is in older
models is that, if it does get stuck somewhere.  Wheels turning, but
the machine itself not moving, it will turn itself off.  The early
models would just sit there spinning it's wheels until the batteries
went dead, often leaving a nice black spot from the tires on the floor
or carpet.

Since Roomba Red is the newest and cheapest, but has all the new
internal features of their highest price models, I went for it!

I only played with it for a few minutes after charging it up before
wrapping it in gift wrap.  I must say, I was quite impressed with all
it did in the short time it was 'doing it's thing'!
I didn't know about the problem with extension cords at the time, but
it didn't get tangled in the two it had to deal with behind the couch.

I'll know more of personal experience after it runs around here a
couple of weeks, hi hi.....

TTUL
Gary
Starsha - 24 Dec 2004 15:05 GMT
> I can give you a pretty good rundown on them already based on folks I
> know who already have them, that have dogs and dogs and birds.  What
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> Since Roomba Red is the newest and cheapest, but has all the new
> internal features of their highest price models, I went for it!

Wow, that was quite a review - thanks!  From what you've written, I agree,
Red sounds like a better deal.

RE: cleaning the brushes, the tool they show on the website looks a lot like
an inexpensive letter opener (sold at Staples, 2 in a pack for about a buck
or given away at various events, etc.).  It has a long point and a shielded
blade - I'm sure it would work, too.

Thanks again,
S
 
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