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i'm looking for a good mop/towel wringer!

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Debra Keith - 25 Jul 2006 22:19 GMT
i use a microfiber mop for all the hard surfaces in my house (more tile and
laminate flooring that a person SHOULD have!)

the microfiber pad is the only thing that can get dry enough to not leave
streaks on the floor.  i would love to find a wringer that i can use by the
sink (crank kind?)  

i think my hands are going to turn into claw-like appendages after mopping!  

anyone have any ideas?

i've looked into the carwash type wringers... shop wringers... and the
cheapest one i can find is $50.  it's 2 rubber rollers and a crank!

(ok, i'm obsessive AND cheap)
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Dottie - 25 Jul 2006 22:58 GMT
I don't know about a wringer but did find that if I added alcohol to
the mix of water and vinegar and detergent for mopping the floors, it
dried real fast and didn't leave streaks as much.  I have off white
ceramic tile and also have found that mopping with vinegar - not mixing
with anything - will clean the floors pretty well and won't streak too
bad.  I buy the cheapest white vinegar I can find ... Save a Lot has
the best buys around here.
0tterbot - 27 Jul 2006 00:14 GMT
> i use a microfiber mop for all the hard surfaces in my house (more tile
> and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> (ok, i'm obsessive AND cheap)

have you found an ordinary mop bucket? bucket with two rollers at the top &
a pedal you press with your foot to squeeze the rollers together? i think
it's what you need ;-)
kylie
Debra Keith - 27 Jul 2006 00:18 GMT
>> i use a microfiber mop for all the hard surfaces in my house (more
>> tile and
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> together? i think it's what you need ;-)
> kylie

i have seen them... and was interested. i've never seen one used before.  
it's hard to shift gears when you THINK you know what you need. know what
i mean?

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JUDY - 27 Jul 2006 22:21 GMT
> I find vinegar doesn't clean all that well and it smells up my house. Maybe I used the wrong type of vinegar. I tried to be environmentally friendly but I just find the "natural" products not worth it. Debbie, I hear you on the "claw-like" appendages. I gave up the mop when I gave up on cleaning with vinegar. My back and knees were always sore after mopping, so my husband recently bought me a robot mopper the Scooba for Mother's Day. Not sure if you are into something
along those lines of allowing a machine to do the housework, but I am totally sold. I am now saving up to get the vacuum version, the Roomba. Maybe worth the purchase over the microfiber pad.

Judy
Debra Keith - 28 Jul 2006 03:45 GMT
>> I find vinegar doesn't clean all that well and it smells up my house.
>> Maybe I used the wrong type of vinegar. I tried to be environmentally
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Judy

ahhh... Juuuuuuuuuuudy.  i have done exhaustive research on the scooba.  
it is still too expensive for me to risk disappointment.   i've followed
reviews on the roomba for the last few years, as well.  

floors are such a source of frustration for me.  i have about 700 sq feet
of ceramic tile... and more than that in pergo. the scooba isn't an
option on the pergo.  the microfiber is the ONLY thing i've found that
doesn't streak it.

i may *gulp* just be destined to have graceful/taut arms (from all the
wringing)... attached to vulture-like claws.  CRAP.  ;)

two years from now... my manicurist will GASP at something that looks
like this...    
http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_pages/0246-0604-2200-4330.html

i suppose i could just BITE the bullet and look into that medication for
OCD. ;)  then i wouldn't have this hard-wired need to do SOMETHING with
the floor!

(for the record... i don't have a manicurist.  ANY self-respecting germ-
a-phobe would never be caught DEAD in such den of festering bacteria!!!!)
;)

kidding. sorta.

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Bart Byers - 28 Jul 2006 04:20 GMT
> floors are such a source of frustration for me.  i have about 700 sq feet
> of ceramic tile... and more than that in pergo. the scooba isn't an
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> i may *gulp* just be destined to have graceful/taut arms (from all the
> wringing)... attached to vulture-like claws.  CRAP.  ;)

I liked that advice to use a pail with a pedal-operated roller wringer.
 Ace Hardware advertises the combination for something like $12.
Debra Keith - 28 Jul 2006 04:27 GMT
>> floors are such a source of frustration for me.  i have about 700 sq
>> feet of ceramic tile... and more than that in pergo. the scooba isn't
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> wringer.
>   Ace Hardware advertises the combination for something like $12.

i think you are RIGHT.  after HOURS of exhaustive research...  

i'm going to ace tomorrow!!!   you guys are GREAT!

here is my new ringer.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1274607
&cp=&origkw=bucket+wringer&kw=bucket+wringer&parentPage=search&searchId=
18090632262

i'm getting the bucket/wringer, some goop and i might borrow the
neighbors cat to see if it really works. ;)

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0tterbot - 28 Jul 2006 14:17 GMT
>>> floors are such a source of frustration for me.  i have about 700 sq
>>> feet of ceramic tile... and more than that in pergo. the scooba isn't
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1274607

::gasp:: it's beautiful! it's exactly like my mum's old one (only, of
course, new). i feel like getting one myself now. we are moving shortly to a
house with lumpy slate floors, so my sponge mop is going to be pointless & i
need a string mop & one of those :-)
Debra Keith - 28 Jul 2006 19:27 GMT
>>>> floors are such a source of frustration for me.  i have about 700
>>>> sq feet of ceramic tile... and more than that in pergo. the scooba
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> shortly to a house with lumpy slate floors, so my sponge mop is going
> to be pointless & i need a string mop & one of those :-)

i'm calling ahead to make sure they carry it in-store.  i hate going all
the way there to find out it's an "internet-only" item.

i'm going to "come clean" about an obsession.  (could there be a more
fitting forum to come "clean"??)

i make a huge sink filled with hot water and fabuloso every day.  the
smell makes me HAPPY and i have found fabuloso to be an amazing multi-
purpose cleaner.  so, i set about wiping away grime/fingerprints/evidence
of the 2 dogs/3 children/clutter-prone-engineer-husband. :)

i am going to use this bucket... filling it with my fabuloso and every
microfiber cloth/floor pad i have.  wringing them/using them and tossing
them in the washing machine after using.  this way the bucket stays clean
along with my house/floors/shiny surfaces. :)

i am more titilated by the prospect/potential payoff than i should be
comfortable with.  ;)

i have very lumpy ceramic tile. the fabuloso seems to get into the dirt-
catching spots.  i'm not sure if it's good to use on slate.  is that a
water-only surface?

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0tterbot - 29 Jul 2006 10:44 GMT
> i'm going to "come clean" about an obsession.  (could there be a more
> fitting forum to come "clean"??)

absolutely not, but the longer you spend here, the sorrier you may be <g>

> i am more titilated by the prospect/potential payoff than i should be
> comfortable with.  ;)

yes, but you're fully aware of your own obsession, so... um... yes! well.
(let's just say you'll fit in very nicely ;-)

> i have very lumpy ceramic tile. the fabuloso seems to get into the dirt-
> catching spots.  i'm not sure if it's good to use on slate.  is that a
> water-only surface?

i THINK it is (i had custody of a slate floor last year & was instructed to
only use water - but that might be due to lack of trust rather than a
water-only surface <g>). having said that, when i get to cleaning my lumpy
slate floor, i think i shall have to use just a tad of soemthing more
cleanliness-inducing, if only because the property has been empty for ages,
and bla bla bla, and the whole place is very dirty, floors no exception i'm
sure. if i bugger up the surface of the slate somehow, nothing really lost,
because you should see the _rest_ of the house!!! but really. slate's stone.
it's unfinished, so i just don't think there's much to bugger up. (famous
last words).

i'm not sure fabuloso is even available here, but i see you're a fan.
kylie
Lauradog - 28 Jul 2006 18:09 GMT
> > I find vinegar doesn't clean all that well and it smells up my house. Maybe I used the wrong type of vinegar. I tried to be environmentally
friendly but I just find the "natural" products not worth it. Debbie, I hear
you on the "claw-like" appendages. I gave up the mop when I gave up on
cleaning with vinegar. My back and knees were always sore after mopping, so
my husband recently bought me a robot mopper the Scooba for Mother's Day.
Not sure if you are into something
> along those lines of allowing a machine to do the housework, but I am totally sold. I am now saving up to get the vacuum version, the Roomba.
Maybe worth the purchase over the microfiber pad.

> Judy

I have to mention the Cham-it mop from the Butler Mop Company. I have 1900
sq. feet of saltillo, terra cotta, and terrazzo floors.  This mop works
better than anything I've ever tried and is easier, light weight,
self-wringing and I get no streaking.  I'm compulsive about floors too.  We
have 3 dogs,  five cats, and 3 people who go in and out all day.  I use the
Roomba Red for picking up all the hair and tracked-in dirt daily, then use
my super-mop about twice a week with a mixture of cleanser, water, and wax.
Here's a link to the mop in case you'd like to try it, they are pretty
inexpensive and each mop head lasts for several months.

http://www.thebutler.com/cart/butler_catalog_list.php?cat=2

They used to be sold everywhere around here, but none of our stores stock
them anymore and I have been reduced to buying them online.   Here's a link
if you want to try one out.
Debra Keith - 28 Jul 2006 19:18 GMT
> I have to mention the Cham-it mop from the Butler Mop Company. I have
> 1900 sq. feet of saltillo, terra cotta, and terrazzo floors.  This mop
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> stock them anymore and I have been reduced to buying them online.  
> Here's a link if you want to try one out.

the microfiber flat mop has come to be my newest floor passion.  for the
tile i have a favorite but the pergo has proven tricky.  

for tile i like the bissel steam mop.  what cleans better than REALLY hot
water?  you can't use it on pergo.  crap.

i wish i could be more open-minded about this one.  i looked at your mop
and the chamois stuff makes SENSE... but i have such a fierce reaction to
anything that resembles a string mop.  i don't think i could buy one of
these for 3 good reasons.

1) pathological string mop aversion
2) i can't buy anything over the internet that i'm not already a rabid
fan of.  (because i hate re-packaging anything and mailing it back).
3) if i get anything new and so different from my usual. my husband will
get nervous.  first he'll circle nervously.  then, he'll blink rapidly.
he might even drool. the phenomenon resembles a farm animal JUST before a
tornado touches down.  ULTIMATELY, he will have me committed.

what would become of my floors... if i'm committed!!!?  ;)

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Lauradog - 28 Jul 2006 22:09 GMT
> > I have to mention the Cham-it mop from the Butler Mop Company. I have
> > 1900 sq. feet of saltillo, terra cotta, and terrazzo floors.  This mop
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> what would become of my floors... if i'm committed!!!?  ;)

LOL, I may have to find a microfiber mop and give it a try.  I love Fabuloso
too, the fragrance especially.
Debra Keith - 28 Jul 2006 22:15 GMT
>> > I have to mention the Cham-it mop from the Butler Mop Company. I
>> > have 1900 sq. feet of saltillo, terra cotta, and terrazzo floors.
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> LOL, I may have to find a microfiber mop and give it a try.  I love
> Fabuloso too, the fragrance especially.

actually, if you DID that it would be like my own special "market
research".  if you do... let me know what you think. k?
:)

(a little misty) i feel at home, here. ;)

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Lauradog - 29 Jul 2006 02:59 GMT
> >> > I have to mention the Cham-it mop from the Butler Mop Company. I
> >> > have 1900 sq. feet of saltillo, terra cotta, and terrazzo floors.
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>
> (a little misty) i feel at home, here. ;)

Will do.  I'm always on the lookout for something that works better.  I
haven't even seen them anywhere, but then I haven't been looking.  Are they
at Wal-Mart or will I need to go to a janitorial supply place?
Sue D.
Debra Keith - 29 Jul 2006 03:50 GMT
> Will do.  I'm always on the lookout for something that works better.
> I haven't even seen them anywhere, but then I haven't been looking.
> Are they at Wal-Mart or will I need to go to a janitorial supply
> place? Sue D.

i got my best mop at walmart. it's a vileda. i think that is a small part
of o cedar.

i went to ACE.  i purchased the bucket that was to be the "bucket of my
dreams".

i was sensitive to the possibility.... of disappointment.  to be honest,
i assumed there might be a 5% chance i WOULD like it.  i've been hurt.  

thinking proactively, i stocked up on chocolate and cheap wine.

"Operation Wringer Bucket" was a total failure. i am loathe to admit.  
maybe if didn't have the upper body strength of a newborn...  

i think i'm going to have to just take the plunge and buy the harbor
freight wringer. son of a B!! sorry to use harsh letters.  i'm just so
disappointed!

nice idea.  the bucket is totally solid!!  for a standard mop, or someone  
with  2000% more upper body strength, this thing would get a big thumbs
up!

well i'm off. chianti and chocolate await!

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0tterbot - 29 Jul 2006 11:06 GMT
> "Operation Wringer Bucket" was a total failure. i am loathe to admit.
> maybe if didn't have the upper body strength of a newborn...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> well i'm off. chianti and chocolate await!

as the person who first sent you down this path, i must object to you
abandoning your bucket after the very first try!!!

here are some ideas:

1: they're actually intended to go with string mops rather than a vileda
(hm, i see you've noticed this), so the problem might be that the vileda
doesn't become narrower during the squeeze like a string mop does, and be
forced out the rollers more or less by diminishing girth (you know how
they're quite thick at the join & peter out towards the ends? - this makes
them more likely to pop out through the rollers more easily, i would think).
so, did you try not squeezing so hard? you really should be able to control
the rollers to some degree, so that you're not forced between the two
options of full-squeeze or open, you should be able to get a looser or
harder squeeze for what you want, and quite easily (i used to use ours when
i was a kid & could control it perfectly well - so you really _don't_ have
to be muscular nor especially well-coordinated, although it does take some
strength if you're squeezing the mop hard to make it as dry as possible. you
can try less hard but do it twice, but at any rate, for a committed mopper
such as yourself, you'll be arnold schwartetc in 3 days anyway. )

2: you need some practice.

3: you're hopelessly uncoordinated (this group can't help with that one,
sorry ;-)

4: the bucket's just rubbish. not as a concept (obviously), but maybe it's a
dud brand or by some misfortune, the one you got was the only dud in the
pallet :-) try pushing the pedal to get control over the roller distance. if
you can't do it reasonably easily, take it back. they don't just bang open &
shut, they come together and you should be able to stop the pedal at any
point. also (i hope i'm not being utterly patronising!!!!!) do be sure to
stand on the sticking-out bit, won't you. <g>
kylie
sounding like a mopping obsessive..!
Debra Keith - 30 Jul 2006 17:44 GMT
> here are some ideas:
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> a committed mopper such as yourself, you'll be arnold schwartetc in 3
> days anyway. )

the mop pad is a rectangle of microfiber with even thickness.  i did it 20
times on one water-soaked pad.  with really intense down-ward pressure on
the pedal and intense up-ward pressure on the pad... i nearly gave myself
whip-lash.  i varied my degrees of intensity... with very disappointing
results.  i think my desire to make it not so much not too wet (or very
nearly dry) is the challenge.  

> 2: you need some practice.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> utterly patronising!!!!!) do be sure to stand on the sticking-out bit,
> won't you. <g> kylie

"sticking-out bit".  that is funny.  :)

the bucket is SOLID.  
if i used a string mop... THIS is the way to go!  great idea. wish i'd come
up with it!!  ;)

> sounding like a mopping obsessive..!

i like "enthusiast".  my mother-in-law prefers "eccentric" to crazy. go
figger. ;)

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0tterbot - 31 Jul 2006 08:29 GMT
> the mop pad is a rectangle of microfiber with even thickness.  i did it 20
> times on one water-soaked pad.  with really intense down-ward pressure on
> the pedal and intense up-ward pressure on the pad... i nearly gave myself
> whip-lash.  i varied my degrees of intensity... with very disappointing
> results.  i think my desire to make it not so much not too wet (or very
> nearly dry) is the challenge.

?! well, i thought a vileda mop was a variation on a string mop! i can't
fathom how you would wring out a pad attached to a stick using a mop bucket.
(evidently as you say, it's not easy ;-)

> "sticking-out bit".  that is funny.  :)

people who know me are persistently wowed by my use of obscure technical
jargon, what can i say <g>
kylie
Debra Keith - 31 Jul 2006 17:30 GMT
>> the mop pad is a rectangle of microfiber with even thickness.  i did
>> it 20 times on one water-soaked pad.  with really intense down-ward
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> can't fathom how you would wring out a pad attached to a stick using a
> mop bucket. (evidently as you say, it's not easy ;-)

i'm tempted to make a device myself.  knowing that i have a 50% chance of
making it something i'm happy with vs. the 5% chance of being happy with
the commercially available gadget-du-jour.  

there may come a day when my inability to find floor happiness... will
induce a "mental break". i imagine it have world-wide coverage and my
family will be shamed.  
imagine a CRAZY woman running down a street with a microfiber mop, a
semi-automatic weapon. she will be looking for a clock tower and
shrieking something about "it's not dry enoooooooooough!"
(if you look REALLY close... you'll see rope-y arms with claw-like hands
attached) ;)

>> "sticking-out bit".  that is funny.  :)
>
> people who know me are persistently wowed by my use of obscure
> technical jargon, what can i say <g>
> kylie

i was DAZZLED.  (think fish/shiny object dazzled) ;)

i would have used the equally technical term "lever-pedal-thingy".  ;)

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Bart Byers - 29 Jul 2006 19:20 GMT
> "Operation Wringer Bucket" was a total failure. i am loathe to admit.  
> maybe if didn't have the upper body strength of a newborn...  
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> with  2000% more upper body strength, this thing would get a big thumbs
> up!

Thanks to your advertising, Ace Hardware just jumped the price to $27.

I used to mop a lot and found that kind of bucket ideal.  I don't mop
much these days, but I have borrowed a wringer bucket like that from a
relative and it worked as well as ever. When that bucket wasn't
available, I had to borrow a much more expensive Rubbermaid bucket with
a lever squeezer.  It didn't wring as well.

I think you're putting too much weight on the lever.  Most of my weight
goes on the other foot, the one that holds the bucket down.  As I
recall, I press the lever with my toe while my heel rests on the floor.

I'm not familiar with your mop.  A good string mop works well with a
roller wringer and will leave a floor almost dry.
Debra Keith - 01 Aug 2006 03:28 GMT
>> "Operation Wringer Bucket" was a total failure. i am loathe to admit.
>>  maybe if didn't have the upper body strength of a newborn...  
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I'm not familiar with your mop.  A good string mop works well with a
> roller wringer and will leave a floor almost dry.

i think i just had the wrong mop for the hardware. it IS a fine product.  
:)

someday i'll invent the perfect kitchen wringer.  you will see my name!!  
necessity... mother of invention and all!

:)

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Lauradog - 31 Jul 2006 01:07 GMT
> > >> > I have to mention the Cham-it mop from the Butler Mop Company. I
> > >> > have 1900 sq. feet of saltillo, terra cotta, and terrazzo floors.
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> at Wal-Mart or will I need to go to a janitorial supply place?
> Sue D.

Well, the microfiber vileda mop I bought yesterday is not a flat one, but a
string one.  I looked at the flats but just couldn't bring myself to buy
one.  They looked too much like swiffers, and to do my house with a swiffer
or even a sponge mop would be exhausting, plus I don't see how one could get
the power behind it that I get with swinging a string mop.  I'm quite happy
with my new mop, it gets down into the grout and scrubs it out so much
better than anything else I've tried.  And there is no streaking. It's a bit
wearing and awkward to wring it out though.  I think they need to work on
the self-wringing design of the thing.
Sue D.
Debra Keith - 01 Aug 2006 03:23 GMT
> Well, the microfiber vileda mop I bought yesterday is not a flat one,
> but a string one.  I looked at the flats but just couldn't bring
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> to wring it out though.  I think they need to work on the
> self-wringing design of the thing. Sue D.

we ARE creatures of habit. huh?  ;)

vileda makes a good product. offspring of o cedar... WHICH makes our
lives easier. ;)

wringing issues. aaaaah.  

today the bucket wringer went back and i KNEW i had to mop.

while i was at the store yesterday, i ran to the auto department.  they
had a bundle of 8 microfiber towels for $4!!!!!   this SAME bundle would
cost me $16 in the cleaning department!!!  

i guess if your focus is CLEANING then you must already KNOW the value of
the microfiber... and if your focus is mechanical soundness... then you
must be lured by a low price!!!!

it felt WRONG!  so, KNOW that you can buy a microfiber hand towel for a
fraction the cost in the auto department.  (eyes rolling!)

i bought the bundle and washed them up.  i threw them all in the sink
filled with hot water and a bit of fabuloso. i then mopped my entire
house of hard surfaces tossing the towels into the washer as i got new
ones. (using only clean water each time).  

i pinned the microfiber towels over the microfiber pad using clothes
pins. the towels are less bulky and easier to wring by hand.  when i used
them on the pergo i added a step.  they need to be very nearly dry for
that task.  the wringer didn't work and i REFUSE to spend what they WANT
for a decent one!

i hand wrung the towel... (but not to the point of making my hand claw-
like) and laid it on top of a bath towel (on the counter).  then...  i
ran over it with the rolling pin!  PERFECT!

it was the perfect combination of wet AND dry. i didn't spend a DIME and
the hubby was TICKLED at the ingenuity.  he's an engineer.... so
problems-solving skills are an odd turn-on. ;)

i'm gonna keep my eye out for a cheap wringer. but for now... i'm happy.  
hell, i may mop again in the morning. ;)

btw... the pads for the mop are about $11. 50 cents for the towel is so
lovely!!!

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