X10 Issues - am I the only one?
I recently Purchased some items from X10, as I went to use them I ran into
various shortcommings.
1- When using the ActiveHome Professional Kit Part# CM15A-SP-ISSO and the
software that was made available on their web ( they forgot to send it to me),
it seemed easy to program however, the s/w continued to hang my Media Center
Edition SP2 OS.
2- When trying to use the Socket Rocket Smart Screw in Lamp Module, they
failed to list on the instructions you needed to program this seperately prior
to trying to use the item from #1 above.
Later this was sucessfully programmed with a code to activate the device.
Ok, so now I have a s/w package and device to remotely control the Rocket
Sockets and the ability to program the Rocket Sockets - time to use the
sensors.
3- I purchased multiple ActiveEye Motion sensors. They are wireless and simply
take 2 AAA batteries.
I placed 1 then 2 then 3 of them on my back porch with different zones or
angles between them and tested their range before the motion would set them
off. Great the seemed to work, I had them simply activate a lamp with an X10
Power House Transceiver Module (TM751). This allowed me to test the sensor
with a visual feedback of the lamp on/off. All seemed well, Again,I placed it
on the rear porch with the other two sensors - each with their own area of
coverage. Then over the next few days I experienced the following problem.
Wind would set off the motion sensor. More over, two sensors would be
activated and the lamp would continue to stay on ( it seemed as if the
Transceiver got confused), I also have an X10 Manual Remote Control CR12A and
I would have to use this to turn off the lamp. After a day or so of this
problem, I defaulted to only using 1 sensor on the rear porch.
4- Final Straw, after approximately 2 weeks of using the single sensor with
the lamp and fewer problems with the lamp being left in the on state - I
noticed I would walk by the motion sensor and it would not activate the lamp.
I would have to place my hand within a few inches to activate the sensor. I
concluded the cause for this was the batteries. Note I live in Tucson - so it
should not be the cold weather or else these would have an extremely limited
area of utility in the US. And if the battery life is less than 2 weeks - I
have no use for the entire set of items.
Comments welcome.
Chuck
John J. Bengii - 01 Jan 2008 18:27 GMT
My wireless MS13A unit's batteries typically last almost two years or
more.
I have about 15 of these units. Some are really flakey and some are
fairly consistent. The nasty part of the whole thing is the wireless
plug-in receievers. They broadcast "all lights on" code every month or
so. I have four of these units so I know it isn't just one flakey
unit. I come home with all the lights on from time to time under each
house code in usage.
On a few occasions I have founbd the system locks up also. This is due
to the wireless receievers flooding the powerlines with noise.
Unplugging them and back in again resets the units and away they go
just fine for another few months.
I thought I could economize on electrcial energy usage but have found
with so many unit left on all night from time to time, I doubt the
economy is happenning. I have many macros to turn everything off about
3 times per day as the system cannot be trusted. The outside motion
detectors PR-511 frequently get turned on and will not turn off
without sending an X10 code from another unit.
> X10 Issues - am I the only one?
> I recently Purchased some items from X10, as I went to use them I
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> Comments welcome.
> Chuck
Dave Houston - 03 Jan 2008 13:01 GMT
That sounds very much like the "endless dim syndrome" I mentioned earlier.
This seems to be mostly a function of the household wiring. Some have
resolved it by changing the location of the transceiver or changing the
orientation of the antenna. Some have never found a cure.
I can induce it at will (by aligning the antenna with a live extension cord)
in any of the X-10 made transceivers. I have been unable to induce it in the
Leviton HCPRF All Housecode Transceiver.
>On a few occasions I have founbd the system locks up also. This is due
>to the wireless receievers flooding the powerlines with noise.
>Unplugging them and back in again resets the units and away they go
>just fine for another few months.
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John J. Bengii - 03 Jan 2008 16:11 GMT
These units hang up and will not stop transmitting until unplugged
completely. There are no cords in proximity to the vertical antennae
(save the 14/2 in the wall).
Does this sound like the same problem? Will it stop by just
reorienting the antenna or does it take powering down? I got rid of
the offending units (or was it two now?) and it hasn't done it for a
few years now.
> That sounds very much like the "endless dim syndrome" I mentioned
> earlier.
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Dave Houston - 03 Jan 2008 16:18 GMT
It's the 14-2 in the wall - my use of the extension was just to illustrate
the cause. I can start/stop it using units plugged into a power strip by
reorienting the antenna but some people reported they were never able to
cure it. Some units are more susceptible than others with the TM751 being
the worst.
>These units hang up and will not stop transmitting until unplugged
>completely. There are no cords in proximity to the vertical antennae
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John J. Bengii - 03 Jan 2008 16:21 GMT
Weird! I seem to recal the units were extra warm before I tossed them
in the garbage. Maybe just cont. Tx would explain that.
> It's the 14-2 in the wall - my use of the extension was just to
> illustrate
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Puddintain - 30 Sep 2008 21:15 GMT
X-10 has always has issues, there are many patches and work arounds, InSteon
being one of those. Look at the two-way communicating technologies either RF
or UPB, you will find it much more reliable and flexible.
The arguement I get from diehard X-10 users is cost. To that I simply say,
you get what you pay for.
> X10 Issues - am I the only one?
> I recently Purchased some items from X10, as I went to use them I ran into
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> Comments welcome.
> Chuck