Knowing that the dates for DST are changing in the US, I have been
trying to figure out if I need to do anything (or can do anything) in my
old Active Home setup.
I have a simple setup and only run macros from the CM11A module which is
not connected to my PC. My macros only run in relation to Dawn/Dusk. I
don't have any that are driven by specific times.
Do I need to change anything? It would seem that dawn/dusk does not care
about DST and such. So I would guess not. However, I did have the DST
checkbox checked when I downloaded macros into the CM11A. I have no idea
how the CM11A works so maybe I do have to make some changes.
It seems that the UI of Active Home will permit me to manually enter
dates for begin/end of DST. The values shown today do not correspond to
those shown in my Windows setup (which has already been updated to
reflect the change in DST) so I presume that Active Home does NOT get
its info from Windows - or at least not directly. I'd rather not have to
manually change this year in and out. So if any changes are needed, if
this can be avoided, that would be great!
Thanks for you input/help.
BruceR - 26 Feb 2007 19:22 GMT
Dawn/Dusk is indeed affected by DST. In fact that's the ole point of
DST... to move dusk an hour later. Now, if dawn/dusk is based on a photo
sensor then DST makes no difference but the calculated dawn/dusk will
have the lights coming on an hour before sunset until it catches up.
Simple solution if no patch is available is to simply turn DST off and
manually change your timezone to the one immediatly west of you i.e.
Central to Mountain (GMT -6 to GMT -7).
> Knowing that the dates for DST are changing in the US, I have been
> trying to figure out if I need to do anything (or can do anything) in
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> Thanks for you input/help.
David White - 26 Feb 2007 22:11 GMT
Thanks for the response Bruce. I am confused about why I need to change
the timezone as you instruct below. Can you elaborate? Cheers!
> Dawn/Dusk is indeed affected by DST. In fact that's the ole point of
> DST... to move dusk an hour later. Now, if dawn/dusk is based on a photo
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>> Thanks for you input/help.
BruceR - 26 Feb 2007 23:05 GMT
First of all, my advice was backwards. You'd need to change it from
Central Standard Time to Eastern Standard Time. Let's say you live in
Texas and the sun sets (dusk) at around 6pm CST. However, if you can
change the CM11A's DST trigger dates that's all you need to do.
> Thanks for the response Bruce. I am confused about why I need to
> change the timezone as you instruct below. Can you elaborate? Cheers!
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>>> Thanks for you input/help.
Don Wiss - 27 Feb 2007 00:53 GMT
>First of all, my advice was backwards. You'd need to change it from
>Central Standard Time to Eastern Standard Time. Let's say you live in
>Texas and the sun sets (dusk) at around 6pm CST. However, if you can
>change the CM11A's DST trigger dates that's all you need to do.
I thought it simply read the system date, and if your PC correctly resets
its date then all will be fine.
Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
Art Todesco - 27 Feb 2007 01:00 GMT
Ok, I've posted a similar article on
comp.home.automation concerning
the Smarthome 1132CU. I think the last
advise, shut off DST and set
the time zone one zone further to the
east should work. However, if you do
nothing
in the springtime, and don't update the
time in the module between March 11
and April 1, everything should just
continue to work. With the module
set to enable DST, it will switch to DST
on April 1. Again, unless you
change the module time, it should
continue to work properly. In the Fall,
the same should happen. Module time
will not change until Nov. 4, so
unless you update the time between Oct
28 and Nov. 3, it should still
work ok. Am I right? Does the program
automatically set the module
time to the computer time when it is
launched? If so, don't launch during
the "black weeks".
> First of all, my advice was backwards. You'd need to change it from
> Central Standard Time to Eastern Standard Time. Let's say you live in
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Dave Houston - 27 Feb 2007 00:58 GMT
>Knowing that the dates for DST are changing in the US, I have been
>trying to figure out if I need to do anything (or can do anything) in my
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>Thanks for you input/help.
According to the ActiveHome Help file - Geographic Location (Configuration
Menu)...
"...if you live in the USA and in a State which observes Daylight Savings
Time, you should check the Daylight Savings Time box. If you live in a state
which does NOT observe D.S.T., you would not check this box. When you check
D.S.T., ActiveHome will automatically advance its clock on the first Sunday
in April and the last Sunday in October. When you select D.S.T., the
previously grayed-out start and stop dates for D.S.T. become active. These
boxes show the dates when you would normally put the clocks forward and back
(in the USA). If you live in a country which observes D.S.T. but puts the
clocks forward and back on a different date from the USA, you can simply
type in the appropriate dates into the boxes provided."
You need to uncheck the box and manually adjust the dates each year.
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David White - 27 Feb 2007 01:44 GMT
Thanks to all who have considered and replied. But as I think about it
more, because all my simple setup cares about is executing macros when
dawn/dusk occurs, the output shown on a wall clock seems irrelevant.
Indeed, our agreement to observe DST does not change the time when
dawn/dusk really occurs (in a celestial sense). It only changes how we
agree to map our clocks' readout in relation to dawn/dusk.
Looking carefully for the first time, this is shown in the data on the
Statistics dialog. When DST is NOT checked, the times shown for
dawn/dusk change for every list entry in a fairly smooth and regular
progression/regression. However, when DST is checked, a large (1 hour)
discontinuity in this pattern is introduced at the points where DST
starts and ends. This just handles the difference between the DST state
when the macros are downloaded and the DST state when the CM11A's
interface clock is set.
If I lived in a state like Arizona (I live in Washington state) which
does not observe DST, I would always be on "standard" time and dawn/dusk
triggered macros would still run fine. So it seems to me that if I simply:
(a) uncheck the DST box,
(b) download my marcos into the CM11A,
(c) ensure that the time on the CM11A is set during a period when my
computer is NOT on DST, and
(d) disconnect the CM11A from my computer (which it is unless I am
changing something)
I should be just fine. The CM11A's internal clock will be on "standard"
time and the macro triggers will always be relative to "standard" time
(according to the Statistics dialog). Since everything in my simple
setup happens only relative to dawn/dusk times, everything should be
consistent.
> Knowing that the dates for DST are changing in the US, I have been
> trying to figure out if I need to do anything (or can do anything) in my
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> Thanks for you input/help.