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Mary - 26 Apr 2007 22:10 GMT
Does anyone know what kind of bush this is? Pic here:
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3725/bushzw6.jpg It's maybe eight
feet tall and about as wide and the flowers attract scads of Red
Admirals, Painted Ladies and Buckeye butterflies.

Thanks for any help!
WoolyGooly - 26 Apr 2007 23:14 GMT
>Does anyone know what kind of bush this is? Pic here:
>http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3725/bushzw6.jpg It's maybe eight
>feet tall and about as wide and the flowers attract scads of Red
>Admirals, Painted Ladies and Buckeye butterflies.
>
>Thanks for any help!

Lugustrum (sp) or photinia.  Can't tell which, some are blooming in my
neighborhood too *achoo*
jOhN - 27 Apr 2007 04:45 GMT
>>Does anyone know what kind of bush this is? Pic here:
>>http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3725/bushzw6.jpg It's maybe eight
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> Lugustrum (sp) or photinia.  Can't tell which, some are blooming in my
> neighborhood too *achoo*
Looks like my waxleaf ligustrum when I don't trim it and cut off the flowers

Here's one http://www.texarkanacollege.edu/~mstorey/plants/P000327.jpg
Mary - 27 Apr 2007 05:43 GMT
Thanks, WoolyGooly and j0hN! Sure looks like ligustrum. Are they
supposed to be cut back? Any idea how fast-growing/what their lifespan
is? Recommended or overused or invasive in the Austin area? Do they
produce berries that birds like?

I'm very impressed with how they attract butterflies (counted 10 species
in the short time I was out today) and would consider them again in the
future just for wildlife if they aren't too pesky.

Thanks again.

> Does anyone know what kind of bush this is? Pic here: http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3725/bushzw6.jpg It's maybe eight feet tall and about as wide and the flowers attract scads of Red Admirals, Painted Ladies and Buckeye butterflies.
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> Here's one http://www.texarkanacollege.edu/~mstorey/plants/P000327.jpg
Dave - 27 Apr 2007 06:26 GMT
http://plants.usda.gov/java/charProfile?symbol=LIVU

First green, then mature to blue berries.  Can make Yin tonic from those.
http://www.pccnaturalmarkets.com/health/Herb/Ligustrum.htm

Ligustrum is a tree.
http://www.bullcreek.net/ligustrum.html

Its a pest like the chinaberry tree.  Spread by birds.  I saw a 30 ft.
chinaberry tree behind a carwash in Wimberley.  Rest were usual live oak,
red oak, and "cedar" trees.

My parents used ligustrum for a hedgerow for over two decades.  Then, cut
them down due to size.
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> Thanks, WoolyGooly and j0hN! Sure looks like ligustrum. Are they supposed
> to be cut back? Any idea how fast-growing/what their lifespan is?
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>> Here's one http://www.texarkanacollege.edu/~mstorey/plants/P000327.jpg
jOhN - 27 Apr 2007 08:18 GMT
> http://plants.usda.gov/java/charProfile?symbol=LIVU
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> My parents used ligustrum for a hedgerow for over two decades.  Then, cut
> them down due to size.

Mine are the original 1982 contractor shrubs - fast growing, evergreen.
They do need regular trimming if they are used as a hedge. They are
normally freeze hardy in Austin. I did have them get hurt when we went
down below 10F once in the last 20 years.
Omelet - 27 Apr 2007 15:59 GMT
> Thanks, WoolyGooly and j0hN! Sure looks like ligustrum. Are they
> supposed to be cut back? Any idea how fast-growing/what their lifespan
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>
> Thanks again.

My blossoms are more purplish, and the "bushes" are well over 30 ft.
tall now.

The only birds that eat the berries are cedar wax wings.
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Treedweller - 30 Apr 2007 04:56 GMT
>Thanks, WoolyGooly and j0hN! Sure looks like ligustrum. Are they
>supposed to be cut back? Any idea how fast-growing/what their lifespan
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>Thanks again.

They are invasive and should not be planted any more.  Remove the ones
you've got and replace them.  For ideas, visit www.treefolks.org

k
jOhN - 30 Apr 2007 05:46 GMT
>>Thanks, WoolyGooly and j0hN! Sure looks like ligustrum. Are they
>>supposed to be cut back? Any idea how fast-growing/what their lifespan
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> k

Those treefolks don't seem to have much in the way of shrubs and hedges
which is what a ligustrum replacement would be. My ligustrums do a good
job of providing an evergreen barrier on the side yard and I keep them
trimmed back so there are no seeds produced.
Omelet - 30 Apr 2007 09:33 GMT
> >>Thanks, WoolyGooly and j0hN! Sure looks like ligustrum. Are they
> >>supposed to be cut back? Any idea how fast-growing/what their lifespan
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> job of providing an evergreen barrier on the side yard and I keep them
> trimmed back so there are no seeds produced.

I have two full sized ones that produce millions of seeds per year and
millions of seedlings... however, only about a dozen per year survive to
get to any size. Those get pulled up and potted and about 1/2 of the
potted ones survive. I'm eventually going to use the potted ones for a
hedge. I keep the tops cut down to size.

I guess they'd only be truly invasive in a really good environment. I
don't water the trees.
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Treedweller - 30 Apr 2007 17:42 GMT
>> Those treefolks don't seem to have much in the way of shrubs and hedges
>> which is what a ligustrum replacement would be. My ligustrums do a good
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>I guess they'd only be truly invasive in a really good environment. I
>don't water the trees.
For the record, I don't really care if ligustrum invade your back
yard.  I'm concerned for the rest of us.  The negative results of your
inaction are not visible to you, but they are there.

There are a number of local areas near creeks and in greenbelts where
the ligustrums have taken over.  Natives decline because the dense,
tall bushes are shading everything else out.  For one example, I was
volunteering a couple of months ago with the Bull Creek foundation.
They told me they'd spent many hours removing ligustrums (as well as
chinaberry).  A lot of this work will be wasted, as the bushes will
sprout back from the stumps.  They pulled them out by the roots when
possible, but larger plants had to be cut.  

Re: treefolks/shrubs:

try wax myrtle, mountain laurel, or yaupon holly for year-round green
bushes of significant size.

k
BJ in Texas - 27 Apr 2007 13:17 GMT
|| Does anyone know what kind of bush this is? Pic here:
|| http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3725/bushzw6.jpg It's
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|| Thanks for any help!

Wax leaf ligustrum

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